Spectre chest insanity.

Bump.

EDIT: Last bump, due to SilentSymphony informing me about in-built bump system :D

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

Bump.

You know that the forum lets you silently bump threads rite :P?

theres a [B] button that pops up near Edit post/etc i beleive it might require your thread decay past the front page however.

But yea if totem users can get +1 totem on their shield very easily we should also be able to do the same especially on a piece of equipment that is extremely hard to roll with that stat + all the other stats you need on a body armour vs a shield which you can get away with some bad rolls on.

Honestly it is ridiculous that spectre summoners have to go to such an extent for anything above vis mortis.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Legion/LZQVSn

The cheapest chest is 1 ex , and that's a chests where you usually have to annul 3 times!

That is the cost before factoring in the mods, the ex amount, and so on.

Meanwhile a chest with just +1 to spectres is 20 ex. If I played a build with something like Farul it would be cheaper to get a chest than here.

yep
at least can we get +1 spectre craft for 1 ex?

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Tainted_Fate wrote:

yep
at least can we get +1 spectre craft for 1 ex?

That's a garbage chest for 1 ex.

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andreicde wrote:

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Tainted_Fate wrote:

yep
at least can we get +1 spectre craft for 1 ex?

That's a garbage chest for 1 ex.

Eh, but you can craft it on 6l 5x T1 astral plate/vaal regalia/zodiac leather, so it should be expensive. 1-2 exalted for sure, to craft.

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Shieldbreaker wrote:

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robmafia wrote:

woooooooooooow. JUST like i said. (self-entitlement)

you SERIOUSLY think that the snapshotting bug is your basis for argument?

why not just expect monsters to commit suicide upon loading into the instance?

I mention it since it was the last time spectre/zombie summoners were meta. They have been trash to mediocre since. Why you oppose some quality of life for summoners is beyond me.

this is simply a false statement. snapshotting was fixed in what, like 2014 or early 2015 ?

spectres annihilated shaper since then. they had another revival with solar guards/tukohama dudes when 3.0 was introduced

and now things like slave drivers are murdering shit. meta ? no, but still very strong.

how does 'quality of life' for summoners equals easier access to an expensive craft that shouldn't be easy to get on a rare chest ?

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grepman wrote:

spectres annihilated shaper since then. they had another revival with solar guards/tukohama dudes when 3.0 was introduced

and now things like slave drivers are murdering shit. meta ? no, but still very strong.

Super off topic i think the monsters used as a spectre are really irrelevant to the discussion here outside of limiting the types of equipment that can be used can almost directly limit the type of monsters that you can effectively use in some situations.

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grepman wrote:

how does 'quality of life' for summoners equals easier access to an expensive craft that shouldn't be easy to get on a rare chest ?

Its exceptionally rare to the point you could play every single day of a several month league ONLY seeking it out and never find it, Its not like the Headhunter or other items that legitimately need to be rare, Even if you do get the drop you have to Anull it down which risks making potential months of work completely pointless.

Also its not a craft, You craft on the item with the attribute but in no way can you slap that attribute on the item.

Shaper shields get +1 totem giving an average of 4 per dedicated totem build allowing for you to have an item tailored to your setup, I don't see why summoners shouldn't be allowed a slightly easier method than currently available to have that +1 spectre for a total of 4.

Easier not meaning EASY, Its very important to understand that critical difference.

Lets not also forget the increased damage on the vis mortis and Unholy Might for 10 seconds on kill which you will not get on your rare body.

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SilentSymphony wrote:

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grepman wrote:

spectres annihilated shaper since then. they had another revival with solar guards/tukohama dudes when 3.0 was introduced

and now things like slave drivers are murdering shit. meta ? no, but still very strong.

Super off topic i think the monsters used as a spectre are really irrelevant to the discussion here outside of limiting the types of equipment that can be used can almost directly limit the type of monsters that you can effectively use in some situations.

I agree, types of spectres are irrelevant to the discussion. I was bringing up the spectre types to remind that the statement of spectres being trash to mediocre, is completely false. So I don't see how it's offtopic. The statement is just blatantly false to the point of I'm wondering whether the said summoner actually played summoner after.

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Its exceptionally rare to the point you could play every single day of a several month league ONLY seeking it out and never find it, Its not like the Headhunter or other items that legitimately need to be rare, Even if you do get the drop you have to Anull it down which risks making potential months of work completely pointless.

Also its not a craft, You craft on the item with the attribute but in no way can you slap that attribute on the item.

Shaper shields get +1 totem giving an average of 4 per dedicated totem build allowing for you to have an item tailored to your setup, I don't see why summoners shouldn't be allowed a slightly easier method than currently available to have that +1 spectre for a total of 4.

Easier not meaning EASY, Its very important to understand that critical difference.

Lets not also forget the increased damage on the vis mortis and Unholy Might for 10 seconds on kill which you will not get on your rare body.

That's fine and I can see making it less rare...however, it does not equal 'quality of life' in sense of the phrase. QoL was spectres persisting on logout, not some ultra-rare carrot on the stick affix on a chest. Just my 2 cents.

You didn't really address the question I asked and statement I made

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grepman wrote:

You didn't really address the question I asked and statement I made

If you're speaking about the quality of life reference i fail to see how making it so one skill can gear itself relatively at the same difficulty as others would not be a general be considered quality of life improvement for said skill.


As for the rest I'm not sure what of your post you are speaking about, The slave drivers? If so sure there's a few monsters that are powerful but honestly the only reason diversity is so low is because the monsters aren't allowed to use a lot of their ability's which would allow for more diversity in what people use ex: chrome croaker and its mortar minion.

If that wasn't it then /shrug, feel free to clarify.