Revert back the pledge of hands change, you ruined it GGG

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ArtCrusade wrote:

Anyone notice how it's always just Standard players complaining about changes in Path of Exile? League players cope with the changes and innovate while you clasp onto ye builds of olde not accepting to move an inch into any new direction.

Is that really surprising? It's easy to avoid items that get fucked up like this when you're restarting from scratch, you just don't play the build. A character on standard built around the old version of Pledge will often be entirely non-functional with the new version.

I don't play standard at all, I think it's dumb, but I can still see how people would be completely dumbfounded at this change. There is no merit to the new version of Pledge of Hands; it will be eclipsed almost universally by a moderately rolled staff.

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Pathological wrote:

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ArtCrusade wrote:

Anyone notice how it's always just Standard players complaining about changes in Path of Exile? League players cope with the changes and innovate while you clasp onto ye builds of olde not accepting to move an inch into any new direction.

Is that really surprising? It's easy to avoid items that get fucked up like this when you're restarting from scratch, you just don't play the build. A character on standard built around the old version of Pledge will often be entirely non-functional with the new version.

I don't play standard at all, I think it's dumb, but I can still see how people would be completely dumbfounded at this change. There is no merit to the new version of Pledge of Hands; it will be eclipsed almost universally by a moderately rolled staff.

That's true. I think many of us league players forget that standard players tend to continue with their charachters if it's possible.

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Pathological wrote:

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BlackRainbow666 wrote:

Give it animation cancel AND reverse it: 100% increased Spell Damage for the first shot, 50% first echo, 0% second echo.

Best idea I've heard so far. I'd still just prefer for them to reverse changes to previous variants of the staff and keep it to new drops, though. Probably not realistic.

There's no way they will do that. That would make animation cancelling after the first cast essentially mandatory and the actual echo part of the staff essentially a newb trap.

If you're going for cast speed, cancelling the animation on purpose will cost so much time it's not worth it.

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codetaku wrote:

yeah, it's embarrassing. This is an embarrassing item.

HELL yeah dude, u came through for me. You tell em!

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kompaniet wrote:

That's true. I think many of us league players forget that standard players tend to continue with their charachters if it's possible.

Yeah, I invested all the currency I had on standard into my ball lightning build. I like a sense of continuity and min-maxing the build instead of starting from scratch all the time. EO ball lightning is a budget build, and Pledge was BiS for the budget version. If I don't use Pledge than I basically have to go crit, EO just wouldnt be enough damage without the stupid level of cast speed that Pledge gave me (faster casting + 30 spell echo). So I'd have to start over basically and resell all my shit.

I'm not gonna commit sudoku if they don't revert the change to the staff, but I would like for GGG to at least give a response or a reason to why they dumpstered Pledge of Hands like it was some kind of OP item or something.

As many in this thread also suspect, I don't think GGG even realizes what they did to the staff, or even bothered thoroughly testing the change. They're busy with 4.0 so I suspect it was just some kinda POGGERS quick little change to get people more excited to play 3.7

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BlackRainbow666 wrote:

Give it animation cancel AND reverse it: 100% increased Spell Damage for the first shot, 50% first echo, 0% second echo.

My vote is "revert it, apologize, and find a local chapter of Fixing Things That Weren't Broken Anonymous."

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SuperMotte wrote:

Liar

My characters are public s*****g. Plug them in to PoB. They toasted this staff.

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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SuperMotte wrote:

Liar

My characters are public s*****g. Plug them in to PoB. They toasted this staff.

My only geared character has pledge equipped OMEGALUL, i knew u were gonna call that guy out

As I posted a week ago or so:

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vmt80 wrote:

Anything can be retroactively nerfed and there is no comprehensive policy on this.

I don't have time for leagues and this was one of the reasons for me putting PoE aside. A game based on collecting loot but loot getting altered depending on devs daily mood means that GGG decides on your inventory contents as well as your meta build.

So, this was among the reasons I quit PoE. For sure, they don't need to cater for SSF or standard either but some of us just don't enjoy temporary leagues. That's a dev choice and this is a player choice, good riddance.

Fortunately, there's classic WoW coming this summer :)

1 - It's a shame that Pledge is trash now, hopefully they fix it in the future. But it's not like it's the only time in POE's history a completely terrible unique item devoid of any possible justification for use has existed. In other words, just aVOID taking the new pledge HOME with you.

2 - Lul standard.

/thread

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Sabranic_SilverDeth wrote:

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SuperMotte wrote:

Liar

My characters are public s*****g. Plug them in to PoB. They toasted this staff.

Don't need to do that, someone else already showed how much Spell Echo gives you in DPS.

Spoileralert: it was less than a 3,5 multiplicator.