Speak with your wallet

I had some money i was planning to use on some boxes and mtx, now after i saw their response regarding end game crafting and trade, i will not spend a dime more in this game
NEVER
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That...hurt. That was irrational. Not to mention, unsportsman-like. Ha ha ha.

Where are you going?
I aced out my ps4 stash so it will resemble my pc stash.

I think both of those stashes cost me around 100=120$ each.

Thanks, GGG, love your game, it's basically the only game I play anymore.

I am also informing GGG that they can expect to get MORE of my money in the future, and the whining in this thread sure is obnoxious.
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Mortyx wrote:
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DreadLordAvatar wrote:
So many fail leagues right? In Open Beta there were not many people asking for an ah, might be because back them there...


...was access to d2jsp.

Poe was built around it being the _EXACT SAME AS DIABLO 2, WITH D2JSP USAGE BEING A CORE GAME-PLAY ELEMENT_ . They removed allowing that, but added nothing to replace it, EVEN THO THE GAME IS STILL BASED AROUND USING D2JSP TO GET GEAR.

Chris and Woodful had a great core game concept, but everything since the introduction of the Scion has gone against the core philosophy, and GGG are at a loss to get it back to it's roots.

Is this a bad thing? Who knows.

But, the game is no longer like it was when the Scion went live, and the designers don't understand their own game well enough (or even play it) to implement meaningful changes.
Last edited by Orca_Orcinus#3543 on May 8, 2019, 1:16:06 PM
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Orca_Orcinus wrote:
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Mortyx wrote:
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DreadLordAvatar wrote:
So many fail leagues right? In Open Beta there were not many people asking for an ah, might be because back them there...


...was access to d2jsp.

Poe was built around it being the _EXACT SAME AS DIABLO 2, WITH D2JSP USAGE BEING A CORE GAME-PLAY ELEMENT_ . They removed allowing that, but added nothing to replace it, EVEN THO THE GAME IS STILL BASED AROUND USING D2JSP TO GET GEAR.

Chris and Woodful had a great core game concept, but everything since the introduction of the Scion has gone against the core philosophy, and GGG are at a loss to get it back to it's roots.

Is this a bad thing? Who knows.

But, the game is no longer like it was when the Scion went live, and the designers don't understand their own game well enough (or even play it) to implement meaningful changes.


I think their original idea was unsustainable and they simply can't recognize that. There may be some cognitive dissonance behind it, but even if we assume there isn't, one only has to step away from the game for a little while (to get out of the weeds) and come back with fresh eyes; it's obvious the game is suffering because of those core philosophies clashing with what the game is and what its players want.

These are three facets which are currently inharmonious, and the hardest one to change is the players, so logically you look to see if your philosophies are flawed or if the game state is (or both). Failure to do this, imo, is the key feature behind all games that fail. It would be an exaggeration to say that PoE is currently going to fail, but it's no overstatement to say that it is definitely faltering. Chris and team refuse to look inward (at their own philosophies), outward (at the players, listening to them), and only seem willing to admit fault with regard to specific parts of the game (but not other, more important parts).
Tired of trolls? Ignore them.
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1473168
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webas wrote:
Honestly this is online game. I do like visiting random hideouts. So making trade as offline is bad design flaw while very convenient.

Any vocal whiner who never bought a supporter pack should either tell what is ONLINE trade looks like or stfu. poe has to play on its strenght that is online with lots of players economy.


What makes supporter pack so official? I have plenty of tabs and even a pet, I'm unqualified because I am not a sheep buying supporter packs?

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Last edited by Al_GGG#0000 on May 13, 2019, 6:58:02 PM
If you don't play Poe, but only study Bex and Chris, it immediately becomes clear only game-breaking code gets changed, literally nothing else does.

They (GGG) simply don't want to have Poe be what it's vocal majority wants - they have a core game philosophy (augmented by David Brevik and his consulting firm, who essentially run GGG on a day-to-day basis), and if it's not a bottom-line enhancer right away, or if it goes against any core game-play development decision, it won't be implemented. The game needs an AH, every one agrees the main issue with Poe is you have to trade for items but nobody responds to trade requests.

I truly wonder if this anti-AH stance GGG has is only in place until enough AH naysayers get addicted and won't care anymore when an AH is introduced.

Literally everyone understands the game needs an AH.

Like I said, the fucking game was designed around an AH.
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andreicde wrote:
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webas wrote:
Honestly this is online game. I do like visiting random hideouts. So making trade as offline is bad design flaw while very convenient.

Any vocal whiner who never bought a supporter pack should either tell what is ONLINE trade looks like or stfu. poe has to play on its strenght that is online with lots of players economy.


What makes supporter pack so official? I have plenty of tabs and even a pet, I'm unqualified because I am not a sheep buying supporter packs?

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Did you read what I wrote? So how exactly were you vocal about supporting ggg for some specific thing you like? Because that dude implied everyone is vocal why and how people are supporting ggg content. [Removed by Support]
I dislike rarity so much im almost quitting poe2. GGG.
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webas wrote:
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andreicde wrote:
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webas wrote:
Honestly this is online game. I do like visiting random hideouts. So making trade as offline is bad design flaw while very convenient.

Any vocal whiner who never bought a supporter pack should either tell what is ONLINE trade looks like or stfu. poe has to play on its strenght that is online with lots of players economy.


What makes supporter pack so official? I have plenty of tabs and even a pet, I'm unqualified because I am not a sheep buying supporter packs?

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Did you read what I wrote? So how exactly were you vocal about supporting ggg for some specific thing you like? Because that dude implied everyone is vocal why and how people are supporting ggg content. [Removed by Support]


You can certainly support GGG without packs. I have 4 different types of tabs along with premium tabs and quite a few normal tabs.

As for POE, I do not believe that full automatic AH trade would necessary solve the issue, but they could at least add the PS4 version for things such as currency, maps and other small things as well as items not worth as much, such as 1c items.

The reason why trade right now is slow is because unless you have full time traders, some are not necessary willing to sell you 1c items despite the fact that they were the ones that attempted to sell it in the first place. They are in the middle of the map, losing 1 portal might not be worth for 1c item depending on the difficulty of the map, and let's not get into a player doing lab.

As for the great interaction we players have that Chris brags about? Copy paste the ''I would like to buy X for Y'',''ty'' and ''cya'' . I have conversations with my POE buddies not with the guys I am trading with unless it's bigger amounts (50c+) trades.
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andreicde wrote:



You can certainly support GGG without packs. I have 4 different types of tabs along with premium tabs and quite a few normal tabs.

As for POE, I do not believe that full automatic AH trade would necessary solve the issue, but they could at least add the PS4 version for things such as currency, maps and other small things as well as items not worth as much, such as 1c items.

The reason why trade right now is slow is because unless you have full time traders, some are not necessary willing to sell you 1c items despite the fact that they were the ones that attempted to sell it in the first place. They are in the middle of the map, losing 1 portal might not be worth for 1c item depending on the difficulty of the map, and let's not get into a player doing lab.

As for the great interaction we players have that Chris brags about? Copy paste the ''I would like to buy X for Y'',''ty'' and ''cya'' . I have conversations with my POE buddies not with the guys I am trading with unless it's bigger amounts (50c+) trades.


Well nobody cares about consoles, I guess we have to care. Hence I even forgot poe exist on those.

See with pc you are not restricted to waiting or something while consoles do need auction house because they already hindered by no mouse no keyboard and worse ui. But then again pc can deal with trading much easier and much much quicker.

And like trolls ignored my important message - trading is online interaction so if no one can offer online solution then its going to be less and less online game and more offline which no one will play eventually.
I dislike rarity so much im almost quitting poe2. GGG.

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