The Beta Key Gen = Broken

I would somewhat agree that beta keys are not meant as rewards. But I'm sure you would agree that beta keys are given out so people can test their game and give feedback on the game so GGG can fix all the little quirks. Wouldn't a more active member of the community be a better person to give a key to, rather then someone who hasn't logged into the site for almost 2 years, because that more active member is more inclined to give some sort of feedback? Negative or positive feedback, an active member is more likely to give some sort of feedback than a non active member. I would venture to guess that most of these people getting invites aren't even testing the game out.

Let's do some math real quick, if every 5 minutes a beta key is given out, that's 12 keys given out every hour and 288 keys every day, 2016 every week. When I was playing the open beta, they said that during the closed beta, the most users on at a given time was roughly 1-2 thousand. That's a lot of wasted keys going out to people that will never even play.

All I'm saying is that in my opinion, it makes more sense to give an active member a beta key because they are more likely to give feedback on the game. That is the purpose of a beta correct? To get as much feedback from us, the testers, as they can?
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xPyrox wrote:
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zycl0ne wrote:
There is few things i don't understand with this.

1. If the games going to be free why not make the beta open and free because they are going to make money from other sources in the game like character customization, only reason i can think of is the devs are to busy to keep track on the servers pop/stress a simple cap could fix this which makes 2. not make sense


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If you release the game with bugs, people will leave and not come back. Bad user experience for a half-ass release. They are following and tested and true model for alpha/beta/open beta/release. This works and would be moronic to stray too far from this path.


Huh? It's not a release it's the beta and people know what to expect, the fun of the game overrides any bugs if you ask me and they're pretty much proven it all runs smooth enough and i think you will find this was alpha/closed beta/ open stress test to get everyone hooked..lol/ closed beta/ open beta + release.

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zycl0ne wrote:

2. Is anyone really receiving a beta key random every 3 minutes or what ever amount of time it is and like someone said why give it to inactive accounts ...wt?, it all seems a bit suss to me and i have seen company's do this with D3 keys to get there facebook likes up, but i do like a good conspiracy theory which is why 3. makes no sense.


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Yes it gives out keys randomly every few mins. Inactive accounts are people to. Testing is good for testers and activity is no kind of measure to testing ability so best just to do it randomly. Inactive accounts != Inactive users. No need to log in to visit the site.


This doesn't agree with my conspiracy theory.

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zycl0ne wrote:

3. What is stopping people abusing the system and making multiple PoE accounts all day long and getting multiple keys from the random generator, i do believe this to be a hoax to get numbers for what ever reason signed up on the site.


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People do this and the team tries to avoid it as much as possible. This is possible in ANY beta, no way to assure they are real even if they looked for an active status. I could EASILY log into 30 accounts each day and post 1 message. I believe they do some work with IP addresses, but outside of that they don't have options.


No it's not possible in any beta because most games cost money and you have one account tied to characters, maybe in free games yes but i don't play many of them that are worth playing, option one would be tie beta keys to accounts so they can't be used else where which would make having multiple accounts pointless.
Last edited by zycl0ne#6951 on Apr 2, 2012, 7:11:47 PM
Sure, and when you can actually demonstrate that posting on the non-beta forums regularly is in any way correlated with usefulness as a beta tester, you will have a nice argument. Until then you have an unsupported assumption that's, I'm afraid, not anywhere near as common-sense as you think it is.

If I was to look at overall forum activity on the non-beta forums (other than over this weekend), very little of it is useful. A LOT of beta key begging, a lot of stupid bitching about Diablo 3, not a whole lot else. So broadly speaking, it seems to me that selecting from that group only encourages traits that are not particularly appealing - a propensity to spam and manufacture infantile us-and-them arguments. It could well be that the people who choose not to say anything know they have nothing valuable to say about the game yet. You have no way of knowing. Equally, of course, I have no way of knowing. But I think the possibilities are more varied than you're making them out to be.
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Jouchebag wrote:
Wouldn't a more active member of the community be a better person to give a key to, rather then someone who hasn't logged into the site for almost 2 years, because that more active member is more inclined to give some sort of feedback?


I disagree there is any relation. I find that people who make post similiar to this are more inclined just to play and give no feedback. No true method for locating a good tester. Just my opinion though ;)
I'm new to POE... How can I play? I just registered and still I can't play....

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NOEMIX wrote:
I'm new to POE... How can I play? I just registered and still I can't play....

Unfortunately you belong to the people who haven't a beta key that allows to play it before the release. Noone knows when that will be, but then it will be free to play.
For a man there is nothing worse than losing his mind.
For the ones who say that people who doesn't participate in the forums should not be given beta keys I must say I strongly disagree.


You seem to believe that this "ghost accounts" are all people who just signed up and then forgot about the game, but take me for example, I signed up august 2011, this is the first time I make a post, but I have been following the development for the game all this time, constantly checking for new things, changes, news, videos about the game,as soon as the open weekend was announced I downloaded the client and played the game every free time I had, etc... Do you really believe that just because I haven't participated actively in the community I shouldn't get beta access?. As others have said, active participation does not equate interest or capabilities as tester.

Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, Would I like a beta key?, of course. Can I wait patiently for it, or until the beta goes open?, sure, I know I'll get to play the game sooner or later and I know bitching about it won't get me anywhere. In the meanwhile I'll just keep checking on updates and waiting patiently, and I suggest you do the same, complaining won't help.

to be honest, people who type like a lot of the people on the forums are NOT the kind of people I'd want testing a game. You need to be able to eloquently describe situations in detail to the developers or they'd never get anything done.

Not only that but like others before me have said, Why would they want a lot of these people testing the game? this IS NOT TO PLAY THE GAME EARLY. It's not an early access key, it's a key that allows you into the round of beta testing that involves reporting crashes, and taking notes about what you like/dislike about certain mechanics. Now you don't have to be the most communicative or even know much about what you're talking about but merely treating the closed beta as a way to get into the game early and "keep playing" is exactly why so few REAL beta testers are getting to play haha.

They want players of ALL varieties(which of course means even those who don't plan to actually test the game) playing but I'm sure they'd like the majority of their players to be the type to keep them informed and actually be looking to improve the game rather than play it and either scream from the highest mountain that it's better than diablo or that you hate it and tell all your friends this game sucks don't bother.

Beta testing doesn't mean you get to play, it means you get to help. (but yes this game is extremely fun and testing this weekend was a JOY I'd like to have more time with it so I don't feel so rushed and I could provide MUCH better feedback, as you can tell i don't shut the fuck up.)
Last edited by Brcarter479#3633 on Apr 2, 2012, 11:15:26 PM
I Really Want A Key... I Played during Stress Test Weekend and really got sucked into the game.

It's really more enjoyable then Diablo 3 Beta.

Darker Graphics and Free :-)

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Wega52 wrote:
No it is NOT broken! It's just random as the name implies...

And please do a search, this topic has been discussed so many times...


Easy for you to say, you're already in.
You don't have that feeling of frustration every time a once-logged-in 2011 account gets beta access and never uses it.

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