Patch fix: Betrayal content has been removed from the game.

I like Betrayal you just don't get enough intelligence from the encounters right now.

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Madix wrote:

As someone stated, it's not the difficulty, it's the disparity in difficulty. The game's damage is too "spikey", your damage also scales way too fast in comparison to your damage taken. This means your content is often bottlenecked by which content will 1 shot you. You can "get gud" all you want but you can't be lucky forever. Also, most people's definition of "get gud" in this game revolves around using cheesy builds or things like logout macros.

-I just wish the content wasn't based around facerolling mobs at the speed of light and if you try to do anything more difficult, you're severely limited because you can't find any more survivability.

This is really highlighted on the HC league where hey make the most tank oriented builds possible. They include all the survivability. They still get one shot by these bullshit mechanics.

Randomly getting one shotted doesn't increase a games "difficulty". It makes it a frustrating and unrewarding experience. If there are even visual indicators for that stuff, they're hidden behind all the god damned green fog that was completely unoptimized and creates lag issues SERVER SIDE not client side. The fact that they put out a game mechanic that causes their own damn servers to stutter is ridiculous. The fact that they included in the next league without fixing it whatsoever is ridiculous.

The worst part for me is I had no fucking idea. I casually glanced at the patch notes. I thought that Betrayal was so poorly received that they wouldn't include the content in the next League. So for me, I fucking quit playing last league because of this horseshit and now I'm in Act 9 seeing my first Betrayal mobs and I'm like oh fucking great. [Removed by Support] Like whoever chose to include it only in the end game did it for a fucking reason. If this shit was in here from Act 1 I would simply have uninstalled the game again like I did during Betrayal. Now I've wasted 24 hours and have that time investment feeling where I WAS enjoying the league. Now I'm remembering all the shit that made me quit playing Betrayal.

I think considering the amount of backlash they faced over Betrayal that they should have given us more of a warning. Not some footnote in the fine print, a big fucking banner in the patch notes warning us that Betrayal will be part of Synthesis. I wouldn't have even been fucking excited about the league if that had been the case.

Uber lab Izaro (3rd Phase) also one shots me. QQ, let's remove the Lab and from now on killing Hillock should give us 2 extra Ascendancy points.

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If the game was so bad, why are so many people happily playing it? Most of whom never set foot in the forums or Redit.

I have a huge problem with this. It basically invalidates any form of criticism because you can always pull the "so many people play the game without complaining" card.

The reality is different. A couple of dozen complaints might mean nothing compared to the thousands who play but they can also be a pretty good indicator of the general opinion.

Lets take Overwatch for example, another game I play a lot. When a character is complained about a lot chances are they will eventually get changed. As much as the joke is that GGG don't give a crap about their customers too much of a negative reputation might be unappealing enough for them to make changes.

I don't have problems with Betrayal btw.

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let's remove the Lab

Now this is a suggestion I can totally get behind!

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szulciq wrote:

Uber lab Izaro (3rd Phase) also one shots me. QQ, let's remove the Lab and from now on killing Hillock should give us 2 extra Ascendancy points.

Comparing lab to the hot garbage that is betrayal.Top kek snowflake.

well i dont get any lags with syndicate, but couple of my friends do, so its mayb some bug with skills u using??

as for syndicate to b removed... It wont hapen man, GGG put too much int that league.. I guess times of glass cannos r gone u ull have to find way to skip or runn for ur life :)

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Cripler wrote:

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szulciq wrote:

Uber lab Izaro (3rd Phase) also one shots me. QQ, let's remove the Lab and from now on killing Hillock should give us 2 extra Ascendancy points.

Comparing lab to the hot garbage that is betrayal.Top kek snowflake.

Betrayal doesn't hurt if you STOP STANDING in slam attacks.

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I_NO wrote:

Aw something that can ACTUALLY kill you instead of face roll =( Maybe play better.

Lag can kill me as well. Should we make servers more laggy and force people to build around it?

Lag and syndicate are two different things dude.

No, they are the same thing. The only way syndicate can kill me is by lagging my game, and for som reason this league they lag pc EVEN MORE.

Well it doesn't lag me and I one shot them so that's on GGG and yourself.

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SoManyChoices wrote:

Betrayal has killed almost all of my interest in this league. I was planning on pushing to 100, but I'm up to 7 lag deaths to Betrayal now. Having my screen freeze during what is already the most rippy part of maps is getting really annoying.

GGG said in the recent dev-manifesto that they are looking to fix the lag-spikes when Interventions spawn.

If you are still being one-shot by Syndicate members after that, improve your build. Add life, add chaos res, add more defensive layers, grab some flasks that can help with defense rather then damage flasks. Add a defensive aura or vaal skil (vaal grace is a good all-around option).

none of those will stop you getting one shot, you have 2 routes only run easy map mods or have enough dps that they never get to attack you. Most people opt for the second due to the defence requirement to be viable is far higher than the offensive requirement to skip getting hit entirely.

And of course if you do build that defence its completely unneccesary for the rest of the game because nothing else hits that hard.

Edit: oh route 3 is you can remove the 4-5 troublemakers as it isn't like all the betrayal douchebags cause problems its the ones with crazy damage stacks and lack of telegraphs.