[3.7] Champion Ice Spear Totem (Lazy Build For Delve 1000+)

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chowderfuh wrote:
So am I to believe the dps claims on this are just pob manipulation pipe dreams or what? tryin it out just doesn't seem like it'll get there off a few more items


Have a look at my PoB, I was struggling for a bit at level 90 but I fixed some things on my tree and replace enfeeble gloves with command of the pit + curse on ring. PoB now showing 2.25 million dps (1.5 million shaper dps). I'm assuming that is per totem (2nd form, all proj).

You need to make sure you set up your enemy resistances, curses, and everything else properly in the Config tab since that's a big part of the build and PoB won't reflect the true DPS otherwise.

The crafted helmet, ring, weap, all make a difference once added up. Also the enchant on the boots is pretty juicy.

There's still tons of room for improvement with my shitty jewels and more levels.

The only thing now is that survivability is still a bit low, sometimes getting one-shot in delves or by legion mechanic. The enfeeble on glove helps, but then you have to sacrifice ass mark or frostbite, and in ideal world you want all 3. But I'm pretty sure there are a grand total of zero pandemonius' with additional curse on the market, and even in standard they are like 100 exa+.

I think that for deep delving, at a certain point that enfeeble becomes pretty mandatory, perhaps at depth 500+ (never been that deep so I'm speculating)... so I'm not sure what I'll do then. For now @ depth 330 and killed 2 Kurgals no problem.

PoB:
https://pastebin.com/0P1ErV61

Last edited by KalaPathar on Jul 30, 2019, 9:45:34 PM
The one thing I see in the PoB that is total BS is that Frenzy Charges are enabled, with absolutely no way to generate frenzy charges. Turning that off is like -20% DPS.

13 curses is also a bit optimistic. Even if you really spam totems it's hard to get above 8-9.

Also, PoB is set for fighting a normal mob.

Against shaper, with 10 curses and no vaal skills up (i.e. realistic DPS), OPs gear is 444k DPS/totem.
Last edited by zz9za on Jul 31, 2019, 12:32:34 PM
Anyone have links to import this into PoB? PathOfSkillTree website doesn't work.

Edit: Nvm, I found the PoB link
Last edited by Orionchuu on Aug 3, 2019, 1:52:15 AM
I've seen several people using Added cold damage instead of Hypothermia. I know it's a tooltip dmg increase but does it really improve dmg in general?
Does the Totem Taunt from Champion outweigh the DPS/QOL that Heirophant or Scion will bring?
livejamie
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livejamie wrote:
Does the Totem Taunt from Champion outweigh the DPS/QOL that Heirophant or Scion will bring?


I don't know about others, but for someone with a slow pc(like me) that died a lot when opening strongboxes the totem taunt was a huge improvement. It also helps in delve when swarms of mobs gather and attack the totems instead of me
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livejamie wrote:
Does the Totem Taunt from Champion outweigh the DPS/QOL that Heirophant or Scion will bring?


I don't know about others, but for someone with a slow pc(like me) that died a lot when opening strongboxes the totem taunt was a huge improvement. It also helps in delve when swarms of mobs gather and attack the totems instead of me


Not worth it in my book. You do almost 3 times less DPS with Champion - 9mil Shaper down to 3.5mil with affordable gear (not GG like OP has). 8k eHP is sufficient to do all of the content, granted you are not trying to afk with t16 Legions.
Biggest question is: can you Delve at 1000+ with Scion? Yes, indeed - you can.
[Delve] Depth 1997 Solo/Volatile Dead
[Betrayal] Depth 1353 Solo/Dark Pact
[Legion] Depth 1003 Solo/Ice Spear
[Blight] Depth 1137 Solo/Dark Pact
OMG! I was able to finish HoGM with this build. For all those saying it can't be done with totems, think again :D. Oh yeah, I know that my gear is crap compared to what most active/pro players have but, for a casual, I'm pretty happy. I can't farm it(5 deaths) but I managed to do it and with 1 portal left.
Last edited by RO_MrGummy on Aug 17, 2019, 3:57:32 AM
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zoNiklv wrote:
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livejamie wrote:
Does the Totem Taunt from Champion outweigh the DPS/QOL that Heirophant or Scion will bring?


I don't know about others, but for someone with a slow pc(like me) that died a lot when opening strongboxes the totem taunt was a huge improvement. It also helps in delve when swarms of mobs gather and attack the totems instead of me


Not worth it in my book. You do almost 3 times less DPS with Champion - 9mil Shaper down to 3.5mil with affordable gear (not GG like OP has). 8k eHP is sufficient to do all of the content, granted you are not trying to afk with t16 Legions.
Biggest question is: can you Delve at 1000+ with Scion? Yes, indeed - you can.

So it's not just me. I was testing heiro (94), scion (91), and champion (93) in standard to compare how they felt running T16's and champion DPS is abysmal compared to heiro or scion based on my experience. I thought I was doing something wrong so I was reading comments and found this. Makes sense now. Champion feels tanky but I think that PoB stuff should be taken with a grain of salt. Run some T16's with all three and see how they feel. I like heiro. Scion was good too but her grunting drives me crazy so unless she was leaps and bounds better than any other class I would never play her for an entire league. I guess it's supposed to be her kiai but it sounds so fucking stupid to me.

While I'm off the topic, I also hate the way the templar runs. Looks like he's gotta load in his non-existent pants all the time. Also drives me crazy but easier to ignore than the scion trying to hold in a sneeze every time she uses a skill.
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Phaeded wrote:
So it's not just me. I was testing heiro (94), scion (91), and champion (93) in standard to compare how they felt running T16's and champion DPS is abysmal compared to heiro or scion based on my experience. I thought I was doing something wrong so I was reading comments and found this. Makes sense now. Champion feels tanky but I think that PoB stuff should be taken with a grain of salt. Run some T16's with all three and see how they feel. I like heiro. Scion was good too but her grunting drives me crazy so unless she was leaps and bounds better than any other class I would never play her for an entire league. I guess it's supposed to be her kiai but it sounds so fucking stupid to me.

While I'm off the topic, I also hate the way the templar runs. Looks like he's gotta load in his non-existent pants all the time. Also drives me crazy but easier to ignore than the scion trying to hold in a sneeze every time she uses a skill.


Yeah I've been doing the same, I also feel like Freezing Pulse totems blows this out of the water as well.
livejamie

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