Support Gem Feedback - Melee Damage on Full Life - Forum

" xenogfan43 wrote: since there are no effective chaos innoc+melee builds it makes it fairly worthless. While this is quite untrue, even in my CI/DW build with a 6link, I did not use this gem, because going up to CI lent itself much more to an elemental damage build, rendering this gem useless (physical ended up as less than 15% of my damage). If it was "more of ALL damage" instead of only physical, it would be very good with CI melee. I'm not sure if a CI/physical melee build could work, I played around a lot with it in the planner but nothing jumped out as particularly promising (at least for lvl 60-70 characters). And this gem is certainly NOT powerful enough to have an otherwise subpar spec built around it. It could be usable for the 6th class, maybe (and yet is a STR gem). Or possibly useful as a niche gem in PvP for lolflicker 1-shot builds. Last edited by aimlessgun on Apr 25, 2012, 1:21:38 AM	Posted by aimlessgun on Apr 25, 2012, 1:16:09 AM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" aimlessgun wrote: It could be usable for the 6th class, maybe (and yet is a STR gem). Or possibly useful as a niche gem in PvP for lolflicker 1-shot builds. Yeah, this seems like a rogue-ish type gem. Its color should probably be changed to green. Last edited by Silty on May 4, 2012, 10:01:07 PM	Posted by Silty on May 4, 2012, 9:59:52 PM Quote this Post
I agree this gem is too redundant with the other melee damage gem. I think the other one should removed or reworked, this one is definitely more interesting to build around. The other one could become "melee damage on low life", this would bring up some weird build :D Build of the week #2 : http://tinyurl.com/ce75gf4	Posted by zriL on May 5, 2012, 7:22:15 AM Quote this Post
" Yada wrote: You're forgetting that you can use BOTH of the gems at the same time, for a total of 60%. Back to elementary school arithmetic. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 You'll deal 69% more damage.	Posted by Strill on May 17, 2012, 5:33:52 AM Quote this Post
" aimlessgun wrote: " xenogfan43 wrote: since there are no effective chaos innoc+melee builds it makes it fairly worthless. While this is quite untrue, even in my CI/DW build with a 6link, I did not use this gem, because going up to CI lent itself much more to an elemental damage build, rendering this gem useless (physical ended up as less than 15% of my damage). If it was "more of ALL damage" instead of only physical, it would be very good with CI melee. I'm not sure if a CI/physical melee build could work, I played around a lot with it in the planner but nothing jumped out as particularly promising (at least for lvl 60-70 characters). And this gem is certainly NOT powerful enough to have an otherwise subpar spec built around it. It could be usable for the 6th class, maybe (and yet is a STR gem). Or possibly useful as a niche gem in PvP for lolflicker 1-shot builds. Woulnd't this give you extra elemental damage from Added Fire Damage and Hatred though? And would that not then multiply with elemental weapon damage?	Posted by hzflank on May 19, 2012, 4:45:37 PM Quote this Post
Yes it would. The damage you get from those would get the more damage from this since it's converted from physical.	Posted by Umbraal on May 19, 2012, 5:18:43 PM Quote this Post
This gem needs to provide damage bonus based on % of hp full. 100% HP = Max damage bonus. 99% HP = 99% of max damage bonus. "It feels like holding my breath under water constantly." Me about the limited "life expectancy" of the inventory space on Path of Exile and frequent needs to go to town to unload.	Posted by Interesting on May 21, 2012, 10:37:50 PM Alpha Member Quote this Post
" Strill wrote: " Yada wrote: You're forgetting that you can use BOTH of the gems at the same time, for a total of 60%. Back to elementary school arithmetic. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 You'll deal 69% more damage. Isn't it supposed to be x * 0.3 + x * 0.3?	Posted by Yada on Jun 15, 2012, 6:07:00 PM Quote this Post
" Yada wrote: " Strill wrote: Back to elementary school arithmetic. 1.3 * 1.3 = 1.69 You'll deal 69% more damage. Isn't it supposed to be x * 0.3 + x * 0.3? "More" effects are always multiplied, "increased" effects are always added. That's why "more" effects are generally higher mana cost/investment. TehHammer is not a crime!	Posted by TheRabbit303 on Jun 20, 2012, 7:00:35 PM Quote this Post
I also need to add my voice and say this support is not good enough in terms of damage/extra mana cost for a niche use. It needs to be comparable to added melee damage and added fire damage supports.	Posted by Torin on Jul 5, 2012, 10:15:42 AM Quote this Post