Atlas Rearrangement for Synthesis: LEAVE UNIQUE MAPS
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When you rejigger the atlas *AGAIN* for synthesis, if you wipe the maps again in standard, please DO NOT wipe our completion of the unique maps.
The "higher tier" refresh doesn't work for them, and it's expensive and tedious to track down those unique maps (especially the annoying ones) to re-complete the atlas. I still haven't finished re-filling from the betrayal wipe. It's just mean, and it doesn't serve any purpose but to inconvenience your players. It doesn't help you business-wise, and it's unnecessary from a design standpoint. Even if the unique maps change tiers, there's really no need to wipe our completion of them. Last bumped on Feb 22, 2019, 10:00:06 AM
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they are reseting the atlas again? damn i wish i didnt complete those unique maps now. the atlas reset will be a regular thing now?
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" Someone at GGG had mentioned that they wanted to do it "more regularly than before," when it'd already been once a year for the past four years. Apparently their idea is if they make it every single league, they can sell another map tab to everyone who plays standard every single league. My guides: Summon Homing Missile (SRS) | Act II starter RF | Budget Oro's Flicker Strike
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" Or they could manage to annoy everyone to stop supporting them. DEFINITIVELY. It's a double edged sword. Not to mention that they should have thought about Standard, where at least a "convert all legacy maps to current edition" button is needed - if they think I'm gonna manually upgrade 4-5K maps again, every 3 months, they really need to share that stuff they are high on... Not to mention that now, due to the asinine path taken, I still don't have a 159/159 Atlas - I do tend to keep my Atlas fully completed, as it makes chasing Elder and the new masters daily less of a chore, but to have me always re-run the unique maps, and Vaal Temple and guardian maps is too time consuming next to the map conversion. It will simply make me play less, and have way less "fun" than I have usually... Not to mention that I still enjoy to play those legacy maps, as they lock me out of the Elder chase, and also of the guaranteed master encounters, which is a bonus for when you actually want a shorter playtime... So I'm still waiting for more info regarding the "new Atlas reshaping every league" rework, but if they don't address my concerns regarding the imminent subpar experience on Standard, I might not even consider a fossil and/or the unique collector's tab... PSS: Our almighty TencentGGG overlords are very scrupulous regarding criticizing their abilities to take proper decisions and consider everything "needlessly harsh and condescending"... Good to know "free speech" doesn't apply in any form or manner on the forums these days... Last edited by sofocle10000#6408 on Feb 21, 2019, 11:28:06 PM
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+1 to Sofos post, my thoughts exactly. Except that I'd be fine with getting all my legacy maps upgraded automatically. This would piss off collectors, so maybe an option in the map tab "upgrade all contained maps to current series" would be best.
May your maps be bountiful, exile
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"reddit has some interest topic that Chris is talking about bulk convert old map in to new ones then player can selectively take out some to be keep as legacy. I am guessing Chris mean whatever in map stash get bulk convert. Maps that is not in map stash will be left alone as legacy. adding vendor recipe for 1:1 convert will solve the problem for those dont have map stash. (again reddit's idea) So these solution should be covering pretty much everyone. IMO the implementation work should be straight forward as GGG just need to convert the map stash + adding a vendor recipe. Also for atlas I hope they keep our atlas. If I have 5 of the tier 7 completion, if the atlas get shuffle, I should still keep the 5 of the tier 7 completion in the new tileset. Last edited by Darkkrows#6635 on Feb 22, 2019, 4:25:25 AM
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If there were as many people who play standard league as there were people who play the temp leagues, I doubt GGG would've reworked maps when they did it the first time.
Chances are good that, since the majority of players are in temp leagues that have fresh economies, GGG doesn't care about resetting the Atlas over and over again, because nobody playing in them are going to have to worry about needing another map tab. PoE players: Our game has a wide diversity of builds.
Also PoE players: The [league mechanic] doesn't need to be nerfed, you just need to play a [current meta] build! And the winds will cry / and many men will die / and all the waves will bow down / to the Loreley |
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As someone who mostly play rather casually in standard, I wholheartedly agree with this!
To have to complete my atlas *again* every three months is just a hassle, but unique maps are far worse that that. For instance, I've managed to play Vinktar Square exactly *once* in ~4k hours of playing this game; completing felt like a long-time achievement, and that was simply ripped away from me in the last update... Please let standard remain a place where people can make progress in their own pace, and leave the big resets to the leagues! --- On a vaguely related note, can't you let standard players retain completion on a tier basis? E.g. if you had completed all maps in all tiers up to tier 10, could you leave all maps in tier 1-10 completed after a reset? It would at least be a little bit less disheartening to look at when one logs in to standard again... |
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If you ask me, this whole cause is embarrasing, no matter how you view STD league.
Probably (~educated guess) there is some code limitation behind such ridiculous behavior. Affected players should not stay silent, GGG needs to know that lazy coding is not anything we appreciate around here, STD players or not |
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What it really comes down to, as I've pointed out before, is that they do the "transition for standard" as an afterthought. They clearly don't have someone whose first priority is making sure that the casual players in standard don't get screwed. They're focused too much on the new whiz-bang thing for the hardcore players.
The sad part is, doing the transition gracefully for the standard players is *not hard*, and shouldn't require taking anything away from the new mechanics or features that they want to add. They just need to think about the other use case. And they don't. Resetting my atlas non-unique maps sucked the first time they did it, because the recompletion mechanic was terrible. The second time wasn't so bad because running one each of the elder maps completed everything else *except my uniques*. But having my shaper win, elder completion, and my unique maps taken from me? As the person above said, I regarded those as achievements to be accomplished once, not something I'd have to keep re-doing. And yeah, it has pretty much dulled my enthusiasm for continuing my standard character, who just beat shaper for the first time to complete the elder shaper event. I didn't even go around and complete the uniques because sure enough, they're wiping them again. I had all but 2 done when they wiped them last time. |
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