Is there ever a reason to not start with arc trap or brand?

...If your goal is only to level as fast as you can, and don't care about how boring it is to level the same shit over and over and over again? Sure, you may struggle with finding a reason :)

It's spectacularly more boring to stay any longer in the acts you've done 80 times any longer than you need to

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Imaginaerum wrote:

It's spectacularly more boring to stay any longer in the acts you've done 80 times any longer than you need to

We just have to agree to disagree :)

After having done both an arc trapper and brandomentalist (hit level 64 smoothly within one play session and did labs 10-20 levels earlier than normal) it feels like playing a totally different game. As a bow ranger I feel like I'm playing poe from 5 years ago when you had to buy basic skill gems off of other players and without any of the super powered auto target screen wipe skills now. When I'm playing with spells, poe actually feels enjoyable prior to level 80.

I think progression of builds from level 1-70 could really use some fine tuning for the the archetypes that got left in the dust during the leveling process.

In terms of efficiency no, but in terms of enjoyment probably. I was fine leveling with arc when they buffed it in incursion but its just vastly overused now, I deliberately made a phys trapper to avoid the temptation of sticking it in my traps this league lol.

I mean TBH I found fire trap just as broken, it doesn't clear multiple packs but it clears one per cast which is pretty reliable.

I've started with blade vortex but grew tired of it around tX. In delve, I did start with my CA ranger, since it's kind of like a spell, and never built another char.
I really want to build 1 char per league though. I am sick of levelling so many times :) Just need to make up my mind on what..

I started with lancing steel this league, I feel your pain. While its quite powerful once you dump a bunch of money into it, during leveling its SO bad. SOOOOOO BAD.

Yes, because lightning trap is as good if not better and it's more fun.

Started the league as Marauder->Chieftain. Consecrated Path is freaking awesome for level up/getting into maps. That being said, yeah , Brands are fantastic.

dont worry GGG will look at the stats and see what builds and popular and people enjoy playing. then they will nerf them all into the ground and add more massive RNG mechanics.