[3.5] Spider Bros ||| Arakaali's Fang Necromancer ||| Everything dead in 5ex or your money back


Like SRS, but better.

TL;DR https://pastebin.com/mfuUm2AH

Showcase Video https://youtu.be/WLFSAakQrpU
I did not swap out melee splash for any fight, even Uber Elder.

T15 Clear Speed Video https://youtu.be/uKzg0dmzQgw
This map has no regen, didn't even notice. Can do any combination of map mods all at once.

T16 without Phase Run https://youtu.be/P3xcCOMsv5s
Spiders give you attack speed that makes shield charge fast.

1 Hour of General Gameplay https://youtu.be/iQepovjrUwo
A variety of Red Maps and delve to showcase the average build play time.

My Character:
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/skyscan/characters?characterName=IcyEmbrace

Realistic Shaper DPS: 2mil+ without good gear

Passive Tree (Level 90)
Passive Tree (Level 70)
Passive Tree (Level 53)
Passive Tree (Level 30)

Resummoning Spiders Mid-Fight




3.5.1b Changes


Phase Run Glitch

"Fixed a bug where Phase Run could make you completely invisible to all enemies."

You have to actually dodge now :( Use Shield Charge or Whirling Blades. Each spider gives attack speed, so movement skills are fast.

On the upside, dagger is cheaper!

People have been reporting that Phase Run doesn't work at all now. Ideally it will be 50% visibility, right now its 0%. You can still use it with Decoy Totem, because the movement speed is nice, but you're better off using Shield Charge.

How?


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To summon 20 spider you need to spell cascase+desecrate. Then use


When you kill the 1-hp worm 2 spiders will be created for each nearby corpse. So you only need to kill 1 worm to create 20 spiders as long as there is 10 corpses near the worm you killed.

Spiders last 1.5 minutes and uber elder dies in 3 minutes. With reduced flask charge mod on belt you get 3 worm jar uses. That's 4.5 minutes of spiders without gaining a single flask charge.

Necromancer gives minion duration, and we take all the duration nodes on the passive tree. You don't need flask charge recharge from Pathfinder (this isn't Dancing Duo). Only other option would be Occultist if you want to go CI or Low-Life

What do I need to make this work?




This dagger. That's it. The rest of the gear is merely a recommendation. You can make this work with just about any ascendency and even the most potato gear.

Pros/Cons/Defense


All of the usual Pros/Cons of any other Minion build also apply here.

Pros
  • Very High DPS without needing 6-Link
  • Easy to play
  • Great Clear Speed
  • Relatively cheap for its performance
  • Can do any combination of map mods

Cons
  • Requires a unique item, not SSF friendly
  • Good defenses require some currency investment
  • Summoning spiders mid-fight can be difficult

Defensive Mechanics
  • 8k EHP (6k Life / 2k ES) at 95
  • Immune to reflect
  • Feast of Flesh instantly restores both HP and ES
  • Fortify from Shield Charge
  • Can focus on dodging because minions are so aggressive
  • Dread Banner reduces accuracy to nearby enemies (stacks with enfeeble)
  • Aspect of the Spider applies a 30% Slow (on bosses too!)
  • Temporal Chains on COH setup
  • Enemies perma-blind
  • CWDT Immortal Call

Gear Guide


Shield


Using the Necromancer's Aegis keystone this shield gives permanent uptime for Frenzy Charges. Charges count for more on minions; 3 Frenzy charges give 12% more damage, 45% increased attack speed, and 15% movement speed.

Otherwise get a good hybrid ES/Life shield. There are a few good elder/shaper mods such as CWDT, +Maximum Resistances, Recover Life/ES on block, and Reduced Mana Reservation.
Level 90 Passive Tree without Necromancer's Aegis

Helmet


If you use a rare helmet, fossil craft -9% chaos resistance. You will also want a lab enchant that reduces the mana reserve of Hatred or Haste.

Alternatively you can use Devouring Diadem. It gives you EB which lets you reserve all your mana. If you socket Haste and Hatred into this helmet you will be able to use an Aspect of the Cat/Spider/Crab as well, because of the massive reduced mana reserve it gives to socketed gems.

Every 5 seconds Feast of Flesh consumes nearby corpses restoring Life/Mana/ES on consumption. It's both a boon and bane. Sometimes it consumes the corpses while you try to make spiders, so time it correctly.

I use this helm because it lets the build run no regen maps easily.

Belt


Get at least 15% Reduced Flask Charges Used. Make sure your Writhing Jar is at least 17% Reduced Charges (16 of 40 use). The belt mod reduces the flask charge usage to 13, enabling 3 uses without refilling flasks.

Gloves


Use unique gloves for more damage. Best in slot are Command of the Pit for the +1000 Accuracy and an Abyss Jewel. Spiders have a base accuracy of 500, so the additional accuracy is a huge DPS boost.

Otherwise use either
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Grip_of_the_Council
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Fenumus%27_Weave

And of course rare gloves are always an option. You'll want life, resistances, and minion damage.

Boots


Movement speed, life, resistances, and dex. Nothing fancy, should be easy to get.

Amulet/Rings


You need 155 dex, get most of it on amulet/rings. Essence crafting minion movement speed is a luxury. Fill out life and resistances.

Be sure to get a ring/amulet with an Aspect of the Spider/Avian if you're planning to use Diadem (check helmet section for details).

For a more expensive option you can use Solstice Vigil. The link setup below will improve the power of TC and it'll still be free to reserve. If you go this route then I strongly recommend getting a Temporal Chains helm enchant.

Blasphemy - Temporal Chains - Enhance - Empower

Body Armour


There's a lot of options here. This should be the last piece you get, use it to fill out anything missing, such as more life, resistances, or other utility options. Note that certain body armours may change your passive tree slightly.



Jewels


All Ghastly Eye Jewels. Make sure 1 of them has the mod "Minions have a % chance to blind on hit". Spiders attack so quickly everything will be blinded.

Life, minion added phys dmg, attack speed, minion damage, minion movement speed, resistances.

Here's a trade search I used to buy all the jewels. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Betrayal/eaKVdYhL

Flasks


Required flask. You need this to summon lv 1 worms to proc the "on kill" summon condition for spiders. It's important to get at least 17% Reduced Charges, because the usage goes down to 16.

Optional unique flask. This is a very good survivability tool, definitely would recommend using one. They're not expensive either.

The other 3 flasks should have
  • Immune to Bleed (if you're not bleed immune from a unique item)
  • Immune to Freeze
  • Immune to Curses


You're more than welcome to use all 3 elemental flasks as well.

If you happen to balance your resistances this is a good defensive option as well.

Total Cost of My Current Gear

Dagger - 230c
Helmet - 1c
Shield - 20c
Coral Ring - 50c
Prismatic Ring - 270c
Amulet - 5c
Command of the Pit - 90c
Belt - 5c
Boots - 10c
Body Armour - 15c
6x Jewels - 15-20c each - 120c
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816c or 4.8ex

My 5ex worth of Gear





Gem Guide


In Dagger = Minion Damage - Melee Physical - Melee Splash
You can swap Melee Splash for Damage on Full Life, but I didn't need to even in uber elder

CWDT (lv 1) - Increased Duration - Immortal Call (lv 3) - Flesh Offering (lv 20)
Make sure Flesh Offering is higher level then CWDT so you can still cast it

Shield Charge/Whirling Blades - Faster Attacks - Fortify
Hatred - Generosity
Haste
Clarity (lv 1)
War/Dread Banner
Orb of Storms - COH - Temporal Chains - Inc AOE
Spell Cascade - Desecrate
Convocation

Leveling Guide


Level 1-30
At level 4 take Summon Raging Spirits and support with Melee Splash, Minion Damage, and Melee Physical. Rush to the "Spiritual Aid" Passive which makes minion damage also affect you. This lets you use any skill you like. Runebinder Keystone is only 4 points away so if you want to use Brands to level now is the time.

Level 30-53
Use whatever skill you like now that damage is generic. I used SRS because it was decently strong. Go down to the Scion area and get both Increased Duration wheels and Necromantic Aegis. At level 53 you can equip Arakaali's Fang which makes Acts 7-10 trivial.

Level 53-70
At this point Arakaali's Fang is carrying you through the game. Be sure to pick up the reduced mana reservation nodes so by the time you get to level 68 and equip The Devouring Diadem you can use all your auras. If you don't have Ghastly Eye Jewels yet, skip any jewel sockets in favor of more life nodes

If you have any leveling tips let me know and I'll include it in this section

Misc.


Ascendency Order
Commander of Darkness > Mistress of Sacrifice > Puppet Master > Invoker

Bandits
Kill all

Pantheons
Soul of Lunaris is good for the 100% chance to avoid chained projectiles. Soul of Shakari makes you immune to poison which is really nice. You might also consider Soul of Ryslatha for the improved life flasks.

Lab Enchants
Gloves - of the Grave
Boots - Movement speed, Regeneration, Attack Speed
Helmet - Dread Banner effectiveness, Flesh Offering attack speed, Haste/Hatred reduced reservation (if you need it)

Questions?


In an effort to cut down on repeat questions, I'll be posting them here.

Is this build still viable after Phase Run nerf?
Yes, you have to dodge now instead of AFK.

Why take Mind Over Matter if we're reserving all our Mana?
The Devouring Diadem gives us Eldritch Battery. Taking MoM "gives back" our ES.

Why go Necromancers Aegis?
If you use Victario's Charity your minions will have 3 Frenzy Charges permanently. Charges count for more on minions, giving 12% more damage and 45% increased attack speed.

Alternatively you can use Lycosidae. If you do, then use Reach of the Council as you won't need the accuracy bonus from Command of the Pit.

Can I use Spectres?
Yes, I recommend defensive or utility Spectres such as proximity shield, cursing, or charge generation. Note; you won't be able to fit the gems in with a Kaom's Heart, so you'll need to choose a different body armour.

Can you refresh spiders' duration?
No, but there's a trick you can do to permanently have spiders while mapping. Instead of summoning all 20 at once, let the 10 or so spiders kill mobs. When a mob dies to the poison DoT it counts as your kill and will summon more spiders. You'll reach 20 spiders from the 10 you summoned, but the timing will be jagged. So when the first 10 spiders expire, the remaining spiders can create more from poison DoT deaths.

Can I play a different ascendency?
Necromancer gives 50% increased minion duration. You will get annoyed if you have to constantly summon spiders, but it's up to you. I'd recommend Scion(Necro+PathFinder), Occultist(CI/LL), or JUGG(defenses).

Do the rolls on Arakaali's Fang matter?
No.

The dagger grants the skill "Level 1 Raise Spiders". Think of it like Level 1 Summon Raging Spirits. The stats of your weapon don't matter for minions, even if the minion gem is socketed within the weapon.

Dancing Dervish is different, because the actual weapon is the minion. The "Manifest Dancing Dervish" skill states that it summons the Dancing Dervish you are currently using.

If you want definitive proof that this does not work, buy an Arakaali's Fang with the corrupted mod "(10–15)% chance to gain Unholy Might for 3 seconds on Kill". You'll notice your spiders never gain unholy might. Whereas on Dancing Dervish you would get unholy might.

How do I gain more survivability?
Spec out of Necromancer's Aegis and equip a good defensive shield. Try this passive tree
Level 90 Passive Tree without Necromancer's Aegis

How do I get 4 off-color sockets in The Devouring Diadem?
Use the Jeweler Orb method to easily get 4 off color. Here's a great video by Pohx explaining how it works.

Credits


banner image from https://www.artstation.com/artwork/gr4gE
Last edited by skyscan on Jan 17, 2019, 12:23:01 PM
Last bumped on Jan 17, 2019, 12:18:41 PM
Fang is still a thing, or are we waiting for nerf?
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Fang is still a thing, or are we waiting for nerf?


not really a nerf, its using/abusing a bug with phasing giving 100%. letting you basically be invisible to almost all mobs permanately. expect it to be fixed.
uber elder down>?
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uber elder down>?

Yes, in showcase video.

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Completed 26 ChallengesIznuts wrote:

not really a nerf, its using/abusing a bug with phasing giving 100%. letting you basically be invisible to almost all mobs permanently. expect it to be fixed.

For sure. Which just means you'll need to actually dodge in future patches. Even if they cut the damage in half and fix phase run (again), it'd still be "Uber Elder Viable".
Last edited by skyscan on Jan 8, 2019, 12:13:21 PM
have you considered dread banner? its a noticeable chunk of added damage for the spiders, scales well with their numbers and high aps (mine are over 5aps each with multistrike, almost 6 with vaal haste). It wont show the dps in PoB however.

My Build:
https://pastebin.com/CUcSyhUG

Nothing super amazing about the gear, most is crafted. I went ape spectres for frenzy over victarios and fossil crafted an 80% minion dmg + 14% attack speed offhand for about 30c. I think i'm too heavily focused on minion movement speed(with over %120) atm, i need to drop some and pickup more minion attack speed.

but on the flip side I found that with the higher movement speed and aps using mele splash isn't really needed for clearing and the higher overall dps with out it helps on syndicate content.
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Completed 22 Challengesthe_potatoe wrote:
have you considered dread banner?

Definitely worth considering. The decreased accuracy to nearby enemies is nice as well. I'll swap one in and see how it goes.

Thanks for the suggestion.
Heya, was wondering how much difference the +1000 accuracy make, is it much more dps compared to Fenumus' Weave?
1. How good is the mapping?
2. Do you have any tips on leveling and skill tree progression?
3. What skills do you use prior to Arakaali's Fang?
4. Around how much did this char cost?
any tips for leveling and progression on the tree would be appreciated.

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