[3.5] Suck's First Level 100 Winter Orb Elementalist Guide! (BSC) Uber Elder/Atziri

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bex_HB wrote:
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SoUDT wrote:
Anyone have suggestions on what I should upgrade? I have about 4 exalts currently.


- get mark of the shaper ring + elder ring ( including level 12 warlords mark ! ) combo for moar dmg ( -> and life leech ! )
- save some up and get a pandemonius amu for moar dmg
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-> i suggest the first option to go on first since you get dmg AND life leech
( btw : do you really play without warlords mark, yet ? o.O )


Yes, do I really need level 12? The author of the post is using a level 8
Last edited by SoUDT on Jan 19, 2019, 1:16:04 PM
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SoUDT wrote:
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bex_HB wrote:
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SoUDT wrote:
Anyone have suggestions on what I should upgrade? I have about 4 exalts currently.


- get mark of the shaper ring + elder ring ( including level 12 warlords mark ! ) combo for moar dmg ( -> and life leech ! )
- save some up and get a pandemonius amu for moar dmg
...

-> i suggest the first option to go on first since you get dmg AND life leech
( btw : do you really play without warlords mark, yet ? o.O )


Yes, do I really need level 12? The author of the post is using a level 8


more level = longer duration and more area of effect

... both rather minor factors on this build when your heralds are up, so 8 would work as well imo

I have 2 exalts. What would yall improve next? Please advice me!
Zerodyme_Witch (Best Summoner Ever)
Just want to thank OP for this!

Followed this guide and was able to defeat Red Elder, Shaper, and Uber Elder, all today.

Just died once on Uber Elder coz i wasn't paying attention to the floor the blob exploded on.

P.S. It's my first time to fully commit into completing atlas and it was made easier with this build.

You can check my profile for my gear. Currently at level 93. :)
Yeah this build is fantastic. I've tried 3 other popular builds and have come back to this yet again.
Just revisiting this build guide and toon And while reading the entirety of the guide, I can confirm that added cold damage, is far superior then a lvl 4 empower. So that will cut cost by a ton.(I did not intend to be a dick to OP guide.) Also, idk why the 20/20 arcane surge, but went lvl 7 arcane surge, and its proc almost all the time now. Very nice. If anyone else would like to confirm these findings, it would be most appreciated.

Also I got lucky with a Queen sacrifice prophecy, and sold that mofo for a good chunk of cash, and decided to upgraded this toon to the most optimal (to my knowledge) gears.

Other then that, its good to see more people jumping on the WO band wagon and seeing people min max it. It is a entertaining skill mixed with elementalist.





This sentiment was summed up by a member of our design team who recently said "We don't want to take away the feeling of closing your eyes and Exalting an item, scared to see whether you ruined it or not."

YOLO!
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drasch21 wrote:

INTRO

Hi guys, This League I took Winter Orb from level 28 to 100 within the first 2 weeks of Betrayal! (Rank 92)

Winter Orb is a new skill from the 3.5 patch. You channel it for a few seconds (scaled with cast speed) and it places an orb above your head. Once channeled you can move freely while the orb chucks out projectiles at mobs on its own. You need to rechannel it every few seconds (8-10 seconds).




In my opinion, this skill is the new Blade Vortex for Elementalist. It does almost everything better than Blade Vortex outside of arguably single target burst.

A quick graphic showing why Winter Orb has such insane Damage Scaling with additional projectiles and Area of Effect.





Here are a bit of the accomplishments of the build!

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Shaper(Day 3)
Deathless Uber Elder(Day 3)
Deathless Uber Atziri(Respected Beacon of Ruin to Paragon of Calamity)
Dealthess Elder(any tier)
Dealthless Shaper
Dealthess Shaper Guardians
Dealthless Elder Guardians
HOGM
Bestiary Portals (Day 4)
Mastermind Liar
Level 100 (Week 2...Breachstones OP)



Videos at bottom of post!


Here's my opinion of the Pros and Con's of Winter Orb

Pro's and Con's of Winter Orb:

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+Autoaiming

+Constant DPS on Bosses

+Shotgun-Effect on mutiple projectiles/AOE Overlapping

+Duration-Based Skill

+Good-Clear speed(insane clear speed with heralds/Inpulsa)

+Chilling/Freezes


-Not Nooby friendly(due to a bit of hidden mechanics)

-Requires a decent budget to make it shine late game

-Requires multiple projectiles/AOE Investments

-Requires investment into duration nodes

-Low damage at low levels


I believe Elementalist is the best Over-All pick for Winter Orb due to the nature of the ascendancy.



Here's Why...

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(Shaper of Desolation/Beacon of Ruin)

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Free Elemental-Proflifation to spread shocks and chills/freezes

Minimum Shock (20%)
Minimum Chill (10%)


(Mastermind of Discord)

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25% Cold penetration

Reduced Herald reservations

Increased Herald of Ice Effect


(Pendulum of Destruction)

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Massive AOE every few seconds

Elemental damage scaling


Okay, now that I've explained why to choose Elementalist I will go into the leveling portion.

Leveling Guide:

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Levels 1 to 20

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You can level up using Freezeing Pulse or Ice nova, I personally choose Ice Nova as it also scales with AOE Nodes

You will want to rush the AOE nodes and then B-line it for Elemental-Overload



Elemental-Overload gives you a 40% MORE Elemental damage boost which scales your herald explosion damage, Winter Orb damage, and Inpulsa's explosion Effect whenever you deal a critical strike in the last 8 seconds. Essentially, this will be up quite a bit early game and almost up 100% time late game.



BANDIT CHOICE IS 2 PASSIVES


Levels 21 to 45

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You will want to rush to the Duration Skill Effect clusters and the second AOE Cluster



At level 28 you will get Winter Orb from the quest Sever the Right Hand

If you have a 3 link use these Gems

Winter Orb(Sever the Right Hand Act 3)
Lesser Multiple Projectiles(Caged Brute Quest Act 1)
Replace Lesser Multiple Projectiles with Greater Multiple Projectiles once you can(The Eternal Nightmare Quest Act 4)
Controlled Destruction(Sharp and Cruel Act 2)

If you have a 4 link add this gem

Cold Penetration(A Fixture of Fate Act 3)

If you have a 5 link add this gem

Hypothermia(A Fixture of Fate Act 3)

If you have a 6 link(Tabula im looking at you...) add this gem

Efficacy(A Fixture of Fate Act 3)

At around level 40 to 45 you should be able to complete normal lab.

Ascend to Elementalist and take Shaper of Desolation as your Ascendancy point.

Also, you will want to be running these gems as well

Flame Dash(The Caged Brute Act 1)
Herald of Ice(Intruders in Black Act 2)
Herald of Thunder(Intruders in Black Act 2)


Level 46 to 70

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During these levels you should be progressing towards Acrobatics and Phase Acrobatics




You will also want to have a 4 link for your early game Herald Setup. This setup will allow your heralds to apply a curse (warlords mark) which will allow you to leech life and mana when you hit enemies

Curse on Hit(The Eternal Nightmare Act 4)
Warlords Mark(A Fixture of Fate Act 3)
Herald of Ice(Intruders in Black Act 2)
Herald of Thunder(Intruders in Black Act 2)

At around level 60 to 65 you should be able to complete your cruel lab. Grab Beacon of Ruin for your Cruel Ascendancy.


Level 71 to 85

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You will want to start filling in the Scion Life Wheel, the Templar Area, and Witch Life Nodes.

There is not a really correct order, grab life(Scion/Witch) or damage(Templar).

Scion Life Wheel



Witch Life Nodes





Templar Area




At this time you should be able to do you Merciless and Uber Labs.

Take Pendulum of Destruction for Mecriless and Mastermind of Discord for Uber


Level 86 to 100

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Grab Jewel sockets where possible and Witch Flask Nodes and Life Nodes between Witch and Shadow. No real particular order on this, it really depends on your gear.

If you have good jewels, grab the jewel sockets. If you have good flask, grab the flask nodes. If you have neither, grab the life nodes.




The Pantheons

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Major:

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Soul Of Lunaris ~ More Avoid/Dodge/Movement speed!



Minor:

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Soul of Ryslatha ~ Health Flask work better on low life!



Gem Links

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5-6 Link(Armor)

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Main Damage Skill

1 Winter Orb
2 Greater Multiple Projectiles
3 Hypothermia
4 Cold Pen
5 Controlled Destruction
6 Empower Level 4( if you dont have level 4 use Efficacy gem)


4 Link (Helm, Gloves, Boots)

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This will save you alot from physical damage!

Cast when damage taken(Level 1!!)
Immortal Call(Level 3!!)
Vaal Righteous Fire(Level 20!!)
Increased Duration(Level 20)

Duration affected Gems

Phase Run
Vaal Grace
Increased Duration
Frost Bomb

Herald Setup

Herald of Thunder
Herald of Ice
Empower level 3+ ( if you dont have, use increased AOE gem)
Summon Lightning Golem


3 Link (Shield or Weapon)

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Movement skill setup

Arcane Surge(Level 20)
Flame Dash
Faster Casting


Mobs take additional damage when they hit you with this Cast when damage taken Setup

Bonechill(level 20)
Cast When Damage Taken(Level 1)
Cold Snap(Level 7)



Gear Guide

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I will only cover the basis, i am not going to dive into what exact gear you need to get to level 75ish as it really shouldnt matter to much...

Max your Res, get life on gear.


Amulet:

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Best In Slot is


It provides

Blind Chilled Enemies on hit ~ Huge Defensive Boost
Damage Penetrates 20% cold res against chilled Enemies ~ Huge Damage Boost!
Chill Enemies for 1 second on hit for 30% reduction in action speed ~ Huge Defensive Boost
Cold Damage
Cold Res

If you cannot afford this amulet, a rare amulet with the following mods is also okay!

Life
Spell damage/Cold Damage
Resistance


Ring:

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Warlords Mark on Hit Ring

Try to get the following mods stacked with warlords mark

Life
Resistance
Aspect of Spider(not needed, but nice)


Ring:

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Mark of the Shaper is Best in Slot when stacked with a warlords mark ring.

If you cannot afford a Mark of the Shaper

Look for a ring with the following mods:

Life
Resistance


Helmet:

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A Rare Helmet with +2 Winter Orb Stages is Best in Slot.

If you cannot afford a enchanted Helmet, just slap on a helmet with the following mods.

Life
Resistance


Shield:


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a rare shield with spell damage %, life and res with an open prefix is the best as it allows you to craft an 11% additional damage as chaos!

If you cant afford a shield like this, Esh's Mirror is "OK", doesn't do much for bossing though.

A rare shield with % cold damage, % elemental damage, % spell damage, life, and res is okay to. These can be found fairly cheap.


Weapon:


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Best in Slot is a I85 Shapers Sambar Scepter crafted with "Gain Extra damage as chaos" then mutimoded.

This scepter only cost me 5 ex to make including the rolling the weapon and crafts.

If you cannot afford a scepter like that Shade of Solaris is pretty OP for a level 30 weapon. I used one until level 91. They cost around 10 chaos.



Armor:

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not much competes with Inpulsa. Shock immunity, Shock Effect, Increased Damage, Life, and SLAIN ENEMIES EXPLODE FOR 5% of THEIR HP WHEN SHOCKED. This chest peice will make you character literally explode the entire area in blue greatness!

If you cannot afford a Inpulsa, a rare evasion/energy shield chest peice will work fine. I did not use an inpulsa until around level 88 or 89.

On a rare chest piece look for the following mods.

5-6 LINKED sockets
Life
Resistance


Boots:

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Best in slot is a rare boot with spell dodge and the affix "Cannot be Frozen" crafted.

If you cannot afford these boots. Use Atziri's Steps. They are around 5 chaos. I used Atziri's boots until about level 93.


Gloves:

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Gloves with the Alva Temple Mod "increased % damage against chilled enemies is Best in Slot!

If you cannot afford gloves with that mod. Look for gloves with the following mods:

Life
Dex
Resistance


Belt:

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A rare Stygian-vise with life and resistance is best in slot

Try to get aspect of spider on a ring or a belt!


Flask:

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Life Flask with Remove Bleed is a must!



Cinder-Swallow provides 10% more damage on ignited enemies and onslaught!



Quick-Sliver...Gotta go fast!



Wise-Oak provides penetration based on your highest resistance and reduced damage taken based on your lowest. Try to balance out your resistance and you get a huge bonus. If you cant, make sure your cold resistance is the highest!



Atziri's Promise... Provides alot of free chaos damage and chaos resistance!


Jewels:

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The Green-Nightmare provides frenzy charge generation, dodge chance, and extra chaos damage if you place it the jewel socket on the bottom of the scion!



Mods to look for on jewels:

Life
Resistance
Cold Damage, Elemental damage, Spell damage, Area Damage


My Passive Tree and POB pastebin

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Passive Tree

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https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAALjA-4EBwSzBbUHpQj0DlwRLREvFr8aOBzcHb4i9CaVJy8o-isKLJwwcTD4MtEzhzWSNj06QjpYOtg64TwFPV8_J0GHRUdFfkWdRlJG10mxSbJKyEt4TItMs03jUEJSU1M1U1JUR1VLVcZWSFcpWW1Z813yX5hh4mKsZlRqQ2r6a3psC2yMbRluqnGFcg97w3yDghCCm4LHg9uKr4w2jb-PGpARkFWQ-pMnlG-XlZf0muCdqp7EoS-iAKZXpr6nCK7_sUK0xbXytz64k7zqvorAZsLsyL_PMtAf1CPVptfP2CTYvdq53ajfbd-w62Pr7u9L73zviO_r8B_yRfk3-ej8TP4K_o8=?accountName=drasch21&characterName=Suck


Pastebin for Path of Building

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https://pastebin.com/bCb3UW0w


Videos:

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T16 Burial Chamber Clear



T16 Guardian Maps



Dealthless Shaper



Dealthless Uber Atziri



Hall of Grand Masters



Mastermind Liar

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Coming soon...


Uber Elder

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Currently need someone with him spawned as Ive done a different atlas strat for my new quant farmer
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One question, what's reserving so much of your mana in your videos? I'm using Herald of Ice / Thunder (Level 20) as well but have like 60% of my mana still available. Is it because your Heralds are level 25 through Empower and your +1 AoE helm or are you running grace or some other aura as well?

Thanks!
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GoldenGonzo wrote:
Does this build really have no charge generation beyond a jewel that costs 6.5 exalts?


I have replaced the cwdt/cold snap set up with self-cast vaal cold snap supoported by inc duration and bone chill. I get 3 frenzy charges instantly as long as there are enemies in the large aoe of the skill.
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ImCliff wrote:
One question, what's reserving so much of your mana in your videos? I'm using Herald of Ice / Thunder (Level 20) as well but have like 60% of my mana still available. Is it because your Heralds are level 25 through Empower and your +1 AoE helm or are you running grace or some other aura as well?

Thanks!


Aspect of the Spider + Heralds.

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