anyone having luck with winter orb?

No he wasn't, thankfully.

Not started yet, but am thinking about Winter Orb. So does it suck against single target then, if I were to use 4-5 supports?

Kinda like the idea of specialising one skill rather than chucking a bunch in there with CWC.

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Pangaearocks wrote:

Not started yet, but am thinking about Winter Orb. So does it suck against single target then, if I were to use 4-5 supports?

Kinda like the idea of specialising one skill rather than chucking a bunch in there with CWC.

Currently lvl 72 with a triple Herald WO elementalist. The single target is fine in early maps but I really don't think WO will be viable in itself for endgame. Still haven't my tabula so I can't really tell with 5 support gems but the fact that GMP is absolutely mandatory to play WO is just a hint. It means you'll have to swap gems if you wanna play maps/bosses. Annoying.

I started with it to farm some currency though, not to play endgame with. Otherwise, the clearspeed is like every triple herald build, whatever the skill used: amazing.

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xVINCEREx wrote:

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Pangaearocks wrote:

Not started yet, but am thinking about Winter Orb. So does it suck against single target then, if I were to use 4-5 supports?

Kinda like the idea of specialising one skill rather than chucking a bunch in there with CWC.

Currently lvl 72 with a triple Herald WO elementalist. The single target is fine in early maps but I really don't think WO will be viable in itself for endgame. Still haven't my tabula so I can't really tell with 5 support gems but the fact that GMP is absolutely mandatory to play WO is just a hint. It means you'll have to swap gems if you wanna play maps/bosses. Annoying.

I started with it to farm some currency though, not to play endgame with. Otherwise, the clearspeed is like every triple herald build, whatever the skill used: amazing.

Cheers. Sad if it's not truly viable for end-game/mapping. Don't like swapping gems for single-target. Doesn't every projectile hit the boss if it's the only dude around, and still that doesn't really cut it?

Thanks for the tip about GMP though. Figured it would be needed, but nice to know it's essential.

Anyone tried it with whispering ice yet?

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Pangaearocks wrote:

Cheers. Sad if it's not truly viable for end-game/mapping. Don't like swapping gems for single-target. Doesn't every projectile hit the boss if it's the only dude around, and still that doesn't really cut it?

Thanks for the tip about GMP though. Figured it would be needed, but nice to know it's essential.

To be more precise, I have complete SSF shit gear (still haven't bought anything) and only a 4 link and it works on T1/T3 maps. I'm sure you can go pretty high on tier maps with solid gear and a tabula. But the endgame bosses are another story IMO. All the projectiles don't hit the bosses. There's a little spread with GMP but the damage is really OK though.

But hey, it's just day 1 impressions, I'm sure guys with lots of knowledge and dedication will come up with builds that will make it work eventually.

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xVINCEREx wrote:

To be more precise, I have complete SSF shit gear (still haven't bought anything) and only a 4 link and it works on T1/T3 maps. I'm sure you can go pretty high on tier maps with solid gear and a tabula. But the endgame bosses are another story IMO. All the projectiles don't hit the bosses. There's a little spread with GMP but the damage is really OK though.

But hey, it's just day 1 impressions, I'm sure guys with lots of knowledge and dedication will come up with builds that will make it work eventually.

Thanks. Pretty sure about the latter too. At some point people will break the game again and make it work silly well. It always happens :D

The usual suspect skills are better bets, I'm sure, but I'd like to try out this and see how it works. I like to try new stuff, and have liked freezing builds in the past. Cool when everything freezes and explodes :P

Yeah the WO and heralds combo is so satisfying, it's speedclear done right. Here's a little Day 1 progress video from my original league starter one. You can check how the skill works with 4L, shit gear and GMP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHvuStVK3sw

The only issue I've seen with self-casting Winter Orb is traveling to get skill duration. Using it with totems, completely cancels out the need to get skill duration, since the skill will last until the totem is killed or expires.

I've also been able to see a huge damage boost compared to self-casting since more projectiles hitting the enemy at once = more damage. However, this is a totem build, so the clear speed is going to match that of any other totem build. If you're trying to compare it to arc, then sure it'll be a much different story.

Currently maining a Winter Orb Totem build right now and I've seen no slowness of speed when clearing. It absolutely dominates in boss battles if you're going Hiro and stacking a bunch of totems to nuke the boss down. I tried self-casting at first just to see the hype everyone was giving it, and really I wasn't feeling it. Totems were a lot more fun personally, even though the clear speed may not be that of self-casting, but the boss fights were much more cleaner.

To each their own I suppose, but that's my personal view.

I'm probably gonna setup a BV/WO elementalist sometime before league ends.