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The point still stands: maps in Delve have no league content at all.
Literally it is Standard.
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Posted byDarkJen#6961on Oct 10, 2018, 6:43:40 PM
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Maps have Niko. That's league content.
I wish that clicking him was more engaging. Maybe fight of a hoard of monsters. Maybe evade some projectiles. Dunno. Something other than click-reward.
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Posted byShagsbeard#3964on Oct 10, 2018, 6:46:47 PM
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I'm in agreement with Sun on this... such an odd feeling.
Yep, totally over league play.
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Posted bySeCKSEgai#6175on Oct 10, 2018, 7:18:09 PM
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Yeah, delves can be incredibly rewarding. When you either get to the city, finally find Aul or just abuse mechanics and farm same depths over and over.
Well i actually meant the whole atlas endgame, it's really no different.
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Posted byHappyRogue#6160on Oct 10, 2018, 8:41:17 PM
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So in core they're going to have 1-2 node(s) every, eh, 6-12 maps like the rest of the other league mechanics or...?
...because if people want to coddle the Sulphate Currency to enter now, they're going to love having to explain how awesome it is to delve once every blue-moon if it is.
[spoiler]Leagues Stones and Incursion sitting in a tree, n-o-t trying to butt-fuck-me.[/spoiler]
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Posted byLeetbakaDX#3749on Oct 10, 2018, 9:53:02 PMOn Probation
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Johny_Snow wrote:
because things like abysses are soooooooooooooo fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun
I enjoyed the Abyss.
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SunL4D2 wrote:
I love Delve and delving, but man normal mapping is beyond annoying and feels like a choir. In comparision to previous Leagues, Icnrusion had Incursion in each map, Breach had Breach in each map, Abyss had Abyss in each map. Having you know actual League inside each map kept things interesting and fresh while Delve got well...nothing. Just clickable piles of despeciable resource.
Ok League is gated behind boring mapping, but you gotta have to do a lot of it to spend abysmal ammount of time in the mine (I can only imagine how bad it is at 1000+) and on top of that you can't even map on character that makes mapping a breeze. Sulphite is for some reason not shared between characters makes mapping in this League even worse than in Stnadard, because delving and mapping require different approach - excellent mapper won't be excellent delver and excellent delver won't be excellent diver. So basically it's a choice between meh build that can do both "ok" and build that sucks at mapping. You are forced into mapping on sub-optimal build you would not map otherwise. Developers decided for you how to play.
I play as Ele Hit Scion and even then mapping doesn't need all these life nodes, blood magic and whatnot. I would like to spec for Inspired Learning and MF. Even capable character requires heavy respec and changing entire gear set. Even without MF I woul still use QoTF Evasion stacking for mapping and Kaom's Heart for Delving.
Delve made me realise just how boring mapping is, but at the same time it pushes even worse version of mapping down my throat. I just want to Delve more man T_T
Sulphite can be improved in so many ways from becoming shared between characters to making new upgrades (like sulphite efficiency or gain), from increasing chance for extra pile to fixing insane RNG behind sulphite ammount roll ( you can get from T16 as much as from maps many tiers below with same Quantity. I wish GGG would get to it :(
League is gated behind boring mapping? Man every league is "gated behind boring mapping". You can't do incursions if you don't map, you can't do abysses if you don't map and you can't do breaches if you don't map. Maps are the core endgame of PoE man... like is this new to you or what lol? They do kinda feel like a chore when the league mechanic is so far removed from them though.
No, all previous Leagues were seamlessly blend in maps. They were not gated behind maps like Delve, they were part of maps that made them awesome.
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That's the sole reason i didn't play this league and i'm playing standard instead. Haven't regreted it yet. Also saved time farming shitty rng challenges before they buffed the spawn chances as it happens every league. Maybe the 1 month league will be better with all the mods in EVERY zone.
I hope there won't be any events like that this time around. They kill Leagues for good.
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Posted bySunL4D2#6224on Oct 10, 2018, 11:47:06 PM
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LeetbakaDX wrote:
So in core they're going to have 1-2 node(s) every, eh, 6-12 maps like the rest of the other league mechanics or...?
...because if people want to coddle the Sulphate Currency to enter now, they're going to love having to explain how awesome it is to delve once every blue-moon if it is.
[spoiler]Leagues Stones and Incursion sitting in a tree, n-o-t trying to butt-fuck-me.[/spoiler]
Well, it's 1.5 months until League ends. *shrugs*
But I feel like Delve will be more rewarding once it goes core. I mean actual delving, not endless darkness farming.
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Posted bySunL4D2#6224on Oct 10, 2018, 11:49:54 PM
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John_Ra wrote:
The point still stands: maps in Delve have no league content at all.
Literally it is Standard.
Truth. :/
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Shagsbeard wrote:
Maps have Niko. That's league content.
I wish that clicking him was more engaging. Maybe fight of a hoard of monsters. Maybe evade some projectiles. Dunno. Something other than click-reward.
heheheheh
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SeCKSEgai wrote:
I'm in agreement with Sun on this... such an odd feeling.
Woah.
Why you are not vocal about it though or are you? Not sure if we can still do anything about it though. But we can still try.
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Posted bySunL4D2#6224on Oct 10, 2018, 11:51:11 PM
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The point still stands: maps in Delve have no league content at all.
Literally it is Standard.
Why do you think maps need content increases all the time in every league? Maybe some leagues are not about adding content to maps. Also what's wrong with standard? It's the exact same game and so many leagues have been added to the core game that maps are full of action these days... i mean how much more shit do you want in maps really? You have breaches, abysses, strongboxes, essences, masters, ulab trials, tormented spirits, rogue exiles, soon to be incursions etc in maps... like chill.
@Sunl4d2 - Being "seamless" in maps has nothing to do with what you said. You said that league content is gated behind maps. It's ALWAYS been "gated behind maps". You can't access league content without maps lol. This is pointless semantics man, you know what you said and you know what i mean.
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Posted byPaldamus#1328on Oct 11, 2018, 4:16:18 AM
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SunL4D2 wrote:
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I'm in agreement with Sun on this... such an odd feeling.
Woah.
Why you are not vocal about it though or are you? Not sure if we can still do anything about it though. But we can still try.
I've offered my opinion in several threads. I just don't feel that being annoying or obnoxiously vocal gets anything changed since I think it detracts from one's position.
I didn't realize how bored I had become of mapping until delve. The leagues previously (as you basically have said) augmented the mapping experience, typically in a loot explosion type fashion.
Now that that experience can be had completely outside of a map, I can't help but associate mapping as a chore to facilitate the delve. Mapping in either delve or even standard feels really empty, and I feel I've been conditioned to require loot explosions because when things do drop its got a very high chance of being worthless.
Yep, totally over league play.
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Posted bySeCKSEgai#6175on Oct 11, 2018, 7:06:34 AM
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