Delve is garbage income - It's time to stop

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Darthbones wrote:

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Yeah, and if people including you wouldn't pick up Wisdom scrolls, we wouldn't have any Wisdom scrolls at all in the game! Thank you for your service!

You realize there is an infinite supply of wisdom scrolls from the vendors. The Fossil supply, on the other hand, is dictated by players. If players stop picking up fossils, then the supply dries up. No more fossils for trade.

Hello Mr. Vendor, 1 free Wisdom Scrolleringo please kind Sir. Very nice of you Mr. Vendor! Thank you Mr. Vendor!

Everybody! Stop picking up Wisdom Scrolls!

There, I ruined the Wisdom Scroll economy. All that I needed was 1 general chat thread and everyone follows my advice.

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Katastruff wrote:

Yeah, Delve is real garbage.

810 chaos after 5 weeks of Delving, proud of you!

maybe stop clinging to your achingly bad builds that clearly can't cope with delve content. GLHF.

The problem with Delve is that BOTH the occurance rate of good nodes, and the benefits of the nodes scale with depth. A city at depth 150 is gonna give you a few white maps. A city at depth 350 is gonna vomit T15 and 16s all over you. This would be fine and good.... but on top of this, at depth 150 you'll get like 1-2 city node in 3 screens of delve exploration, but as you go deeper they are fucking everywhere.

I think it was a mistake scaling node-quality with depth. Just scaling node-rewards with depth was enough. By scaling both node-quality and node-rewards, it creates a very exponential curve, so that more casual players who can't get very deep get pretty much bupkiss and make it feel like delving is a complete waste of time.

A more linear system of rewards would have better balanced delve so it didn't create such a huge gulf between showers you with wealth vs wasting your time.

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ladish wrote:

maybe stop clinging to your achingly bad builds that clearly can't cope with delve content. GLHF.

That elitist BS is so tired. People deserve to get rewarded for their content at any level. yes, better builds that can go deeper do deserve better rewards, but it's kind of broken as it is implimented.

Delve is very crushing. I have characters who I have used to clear Uber Elder who struggle hard when going past depth 250.

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GoldDragon32 wrote:

The problem with Delve is that BOTH the occurance rate of good nodes, and the benefits of the nodes scale with depth. A city at depth 150 is gonna give you a few white maps. A city at depth 350 is gonna vomit T15 and 16s all over you. This would be fine and good.... but on top of this, at depth 150 you'll get like 1-2 city node in 3 screens of delve exploration, but as you go deeper they are fucking everywhere.

I think it was a mistake scaling node-quality with depth. Just scaling node-rewards with depth was enough. By scaling both node-quality and node-rewards, it creates a very exponential curve, so that more casual players who can't get very deep get pretty much bupkiss and make it feel like delving is a complete waste of time.

A more linear system of rewards would have better balanced delve so it didn't create such a huge gulf between showers you with wealth vs wasting your time.

Getting to high depth isn't worth time wise already. Not to mention that your rewards even 450+ aren't good because of the cost and time needed for it. If you want to play efficiently, then ignoring Delves 100% is the wisest choice by far.

Even 600+, it's not even close to an average map profit gain, not even half of it. If you're 900+, you obviously have better ways to generate profit.

Ok, Kiss_Me_Quick has spoken and got the solution to Delve. Everyone just totally stop Delving.

If some wants to play Delve, they do it because they want to do it. Not because of you. Currency or no Currency or whatever. If I go Delving, I go Delving because I actually like going Delving, and not necessarily because of what I might find. I find sometimes nada, and other times I find things I never expected to find at all. Sometimes I just go Delve for the heck of it, and also just for the fun of going Delving, quite simply because of it just being fun doing it, nothing else. Certainly not because of the fact I EXPECT to always find something, because I don´t.

But surely you must stop Kiss_Me_Quick Delving if you find it just boring. That is just fine with me. I have this League specific time to go Delving, and when this League is over, it might as well be over. For good maybe even.
So therefore I prefer go Delving when I am actually having the chance of doing so. It lasts for 3 months. Yes, that is 3 months. Deal with it. If I stopped Delving now, I know for a fact that I would regret it for not going Delving after the League is over. So that´s it.

And that is that. Now, stop complaining about Delving.

is this a joke?
with a darkness tanking char and the way fossils can respawn and such you can farm so many fossils so fast it is insane. yes a lot of them sell for 2-4c, but you can pick up 50 of them in like 10 minutes. people are literally making thousands of chaos in couple hours, and people are buying those fossils and crafting good stuff and making their own currency.

this league currency has been off the rails, you linking a HH and mirror is added proof of it.

once i decided to shape my atlas towards my elder map sustain i sold all my t16s that i got from city biomes and made 7 exalts. boom just that fast. i've had 12 pure ex drop for me this league. probably about half of those were in the mine.

another massive currency getter for me this league has been selling divinations cards collected from delving. you can get seriously good cards down there, and you can get them very often.

and the amount of 6s items have netted me....oh i dunno, probably around 3-4k fusings just myself, which i've been able to sell almost all of them.

now, i don't really care about currency. i just like having enough to fund my characters, but i've never had remotely close to what i have in this league. if i liquidated my spoils i'd probably reach 120-150 ex

Huh, so currency=fun? It might be for you.

Fossiles/resonators are and will be a great addition to the game and there is always more satisfaction in getting something yourself than go and buy 1k on the market. Delve is fun and hope it goes core after all the shit gets fixed. On further leagues there won't be as much challenges ligated to delves so it will be tolerable and fit with the rest of the side content.

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Everyone still spurts the same nonsense such as:
"We can't reduce/remove sulphite or people get too rich!"
or
"This insane money maker needs a cap!"
What big currency? Nobody has ever showed me this BIG money. You're just getting baited by loot explosions, which is why it was designed like that. You do your 10 Azurite nodes and then get stimulation with your 2 chaos and 2 regret drops from a currency node. Wow, never seen so much currency in 1 place!

Delve is GARBAGE INCOME

If you care about anything regarding loot or XP, you shouldn't do Delves in any tier. It's random RIPs for XP and dogshit currency. The "But I found an exalt yesterday!" isn't a valid argument either. Compare your mapping time vs Delve time reward - You wouldn't believe the results!

Yes, it can be fun for you, but that's it, nothing else.
I wonder if Sulphite still hasn't been changed / removed because of these chrome recipe masterminds who defend the Sulphite cap on every possible platform.

Well yesterday I run 15maps to get 10k sulfite,I got stuff for ~50chaos.
I have spent thath 10k at 200depth, it was like 20delves, I got 180 chaoses worth of stuff. So ya, delves are very rewarding. I only count fossils, cards, maps, currency, essences and uniques worth at least 1chaos. (Most expensive was a ring for 3chaos).

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Kiss_Me_Quick wrote:

Everyone still spurts the same nonsense such as:
"We can't reduce/remove sulphite or people get too rich!"
or
"This insane money maker needs a cap!"
What big currency? Nobody has ever showed me this BIG money. You're just getting baited by loot explosions, which is why it was designed like that. You do your 10 Azurite nodes and then get stimulation with your 2 chaos and 2 regret drops from a currency node. Wow, never seen so much currency in 1 place!

Delve is GARBAGE INCOME

If you care about anything regarding loot or XP, you shouldn't do Delves in any tier. It's random RIPs for XP and dogshit currency. The "But I found an exalt yesterday!" isn't a valid argument either. Compare your mapping time vs Delve time reward - You wouldn't believe the results!

Yes, it can be fun for you, but that's it, nothing else.
I wonder if Sulphite still hasn't been changed / removed because of these chrome recipe masterminds who defend the Sulphite cap on every possible platform.

Hey Kiss....
If delve is so garbage and drop fuck all, how u can have HH and mirror dropped in 1 month of t league?? Just asking cos all u get is just 2c for run in delve...

The income of PoE is entertainment, currency is just a tool that may or may not help you with that :p