Raise Zombies get melted by Elemental Damage

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Fruz wrote:

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MasterTBC wrote:

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Th69 wrote:

You know of Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance Support Gem?

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It's not a joke, it's a legit suggestion, that gem also gives up to a 20% MORE minion elemental damage too ( which scales minion instability and ele part of a minion attack ).
Not using it is also a choice you have.

edit : wait .... you are claiming that you don't need physical mitigation on your zombies, you are laughing at somebody poiting out the exact gem that would help you in that case and you are using zombies linked to ... fortify ??? really ?
You don't even have quality on your raise zombie gem ...

I am not sure if any help is wanted...

I personally like to run minion ele res on jewels. It cost a few suffix, trade off for where minion dmg and speed is (on ghastly) but its nice on cobalts

In incursion league, only thing that can kill my zombies is Phoenix guardian.

I killed all the guardians even Phoenix. Killed shaper, T15 elder with it.

My Zombie life was 35K. (1000 str Baron build)

"Zombies are dying in the late game content" is the biggest lie ever told.

And try these jewels if you dont wanna waste gem slot :

http://poe.trade/search/erimakarakitam

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MasterTBC wrote:

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Th69 wrote:

You know of Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance Support Gem?

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Also known as the "But I want my glass cannon to work!" defence...

Other options:
Generosity + Purity of Elements
Jewels with 10% minion resists

As said also by others, there are plenty of options for your minions to not melt by elemental damage. If your build doesn't use them, the problem is your build, nothing else...

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Cyzax wrote:

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MasterTBC wrote:

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Th69 wrote:

You know of Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance Support Gem?

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Also known as the "But I want my glass cannon to work!" defence...

Other options:
Generosity + Purity of Elements
Jewels with 10% minion resists

As said also by others, there are plenty of options for your minions to not melt by elemental damage. If your build doesn't use them, the problem is your build, nothing else...

Zombies are fine, but that gem is still shit.

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Bananaplasm wrote:

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Cyzax wrote:

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Minion and Totem Elemental Resistance Support Gem
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Zombies are fine, but that gem is still shit.

No, it is not. It gives you survivability you might not otherwise be able to build in at the cost of some damage.

54% resist at 20/20 is pretty awesome since it allow you to free up jewel slots, aura space or skill points which you can then use to produce damage.

It is not for every build, but without survivability your minions are toast... meaning you're toast. Glass cannoning should always be severely punished :-p

You guys are really funny

Im not using Minion instability so I don't want them to die

No, I am not using a baron build either
How much HP does your character have on that build 3000?

Totem ele res does nothing for zombies with already capped resistances also 19% damage is laughable go for Conc effect its 54% more damage.
Totem ele resistance is also counterintuitive on a Minion instability since you want your minions to die.

Quality on zombie gem does almost nothing its definitely not gonna stop zombies from getting wiped 10 times in a single delve.
Yes I started using Fortify recently and I didn't notice a difference they still die like fruit flies.
I was actually using Summon Phantasm on kill instead because its new.

A random Essence mob will 2 shot them with elemental AOE spells and they won't caustic cloud on death since they got frozen and shattered.
That passive is really useful lol

It doesn't even need high maps for that it happens in 75 maps it happens in 78 maps it just needs elemental spells and even better AOE or chaining

Also my zombies have 7% HP regen per sec
Regenerating in less than 14 seconds to full hp doesn't help when they are getting killed in 2 hits

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MasterTBC wrote:

Totem ele resistance is also counterintuitive on a Minion instability since you want your minions to die.

Because you know, people playing minion instability aim to having as little health as possible on their zombies so that their minion instability deal pretty much no damage.


Or not obviously.

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MasterTBC wrote:

Quality on zombie gem does almost nothing

So you really do have no clue, what you are talking about.

Alright, whatever.


PS : Many delve monsters penetrate ele resists.

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Fruz wrote:

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MasterTBC wrote:

Totem ele resistance is also counterintuitive on a Minion instability since you want your minions to die.

Because you know, people playing minion instability aim to having as little health as possible on their zombies so that their minion instability deal pretty much no damage.


Or not obviously.

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MasterTBC wrote:

Quality on zombie gem does almost nothing

So you really do have no clue, what you are talking about.

Alright, whatever.


PS : Many delve monsters penetrate ele resists.

In case you didn't know totem ele res doesn't increase the hp of minions.

Ok so i calculated what quality would do:
Increase their life by 921 hp at level 20

WOW definitely enough for a zombie to 1vs1 shaper

Seriously how does that stop them from getting 2 shotted?

Maybe +10% Max ele res would do something or having double the life

If you know better, then keep running with uncorrupted 0% quality gems them.

And if you think that changing one thing will make zombies in a 4L ( not +2 helmet ) with 2 damage supports suddenly tank shaper ... you're very mistaking about quite a bunch of things.

But I see that you swapped minion damage to minion life already, if you want your zombies to actually tank, that's an improvement.


How are you capping the resistances on your zombies ?
I didn't see any jewel with +%minion ele resistances, only that one minion passive with +10% and no commander of darkness, what am I missing ?