Chayula is actually worse than Elder

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johnKeys wrote:

I don't know what kind of mirror tier gear you're used to, DivineChampion, but to me a ring that - while in a breach - gives 30 allres, 44 chaos res, sweet 70% Mana Regen for traps and almost 200 evasion... Is pretty damn good.

Right everything which is better than this ring is mirror tier...

Actually this ring has 30% all ele res and 44% chaos res and nothing more. 0 life, 0 damage. That's why this is not-to-pick-up gear tier. 1c rings are much better than this one.

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DivineChampion wrote:

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johnKeys wrote:

I don't know what kind of mirror tier gear you're used to, DivineChampion, but to me a ring that - while in a breach - gives 30 allres, 44 chaos res, sweet 70% Mana Regen for traps and almost 200 evasion... Is pretty damn good.

Right everything which is better than this ring is mirror tier...

Actually this ring has 30% all ele res and 44% chaos res and nothing more. 0 life, 0 damage. That's why this is not-to-pick-up gear tier. 1c rings are much better than this one.

44 Chaos resist is pretty good considering that 30% chaos resist is the max IIRC fro normal rings. That said it is probably only as good as a ming's heart which has 60% chaos resist.

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DudeTheLegend wrote:

Watched some old videos.
Jesus..... if some of the best players cant do chayula without dying, why does this even exist?
And on hardcore probably nobody bothers with it.
What is this shit content? Farm 300h to open a place that has a 99% to fucking rip u chance and 1% of getting barely your money back.

Can you please start normalising your content so that regular players can experience it too without being so fucking elitist??

Like 80% of your content is stuff that barely 5% of all players ever get to see.
That shit is wack....

From GGG's point of view this system works as intended. If you are not a complete newbie in this type of games, you're probably going through "campaign" quite easily. If even that content causes you problems, you are a hopeless target for GGG, because you will not buy anything from them anyway, so it's better you disappear and not strain servers.

Then follow the first maps, "uber lab" and maps T10 +. This is the final test, if you have reached them, then most likely you will want to see what is next, at the very end. Therefore, you must die and die and die to play as long as possible, because then there is the best chance that you will buy something :)

That's why "endgame content" is so stupidly designed. The idea is that the player would play these 300 hours, then he will finally reach this Chahyula/Shaper/Uber Elder and will be crually beaten. Then there is a chance that he will play another 300 hours and maybe he will finally buy something :P

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pr13st wrote:

Apparently esh, tul and uul are girls according to wiki. The more I know..

Huh. I always thought "Lord" was adressed to man, "Lady" to woman.

Maybe they are traps?

So even the wiki and game have trouble figuring it out.

Peace,

-Boem-

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Boem wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

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pr13st wrote:

Apparently esh, tul and uul are girls according to wiki. The more I know..

Huh. I always thought "Lord" was adressed to man, "Lady" to woman.

Maybe they are traps?

So even the wiki and game have trouble figuring it out.

Peace,

-Boem-

Or maby fallen angels from Dogma?

Aye it’s a some fight, I’ve managed to kill him/her for first time 2 weeks ago in standard, that long did took me to gather all those splinters since breach! LOL That’s how often they spawn at least for me;) didn’t both a single splinter...

Her domain is a single target DPS check.

You should one shot the spiders.

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shitloads of unavoidable damage

You can dodge the cyclone.
https://youtu.be/KtL04dUxCe0?t=2m4s - took just one of cyclone projectiles while running around.

The other abilities even easier to dodge, i.e. you can basically attack the boss for free while mortars, because they are stationary.

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Towlg wrote:

Her domain is a single target DPS check.

You should one shot the spiders.

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shitloads of unavoidable damage

You can dodge the cyclone.
https://youtu.be/KtL04dUxCe0?t=2m4s - took just one of cyclone projectiles while running around.

The other abilities even easier to dodge, i.e. you can basically attack the boss for free while mortars, because they are stationary.

One shot the spiders? How?

And the video - while very impressive - is the same as saying Shaper bullet hell can be dodged because one guy with skill, luck and movement speed could do it.
BTW if this was Shaper bullet hell you'd be dead from those 2 hits. I know because I was, and I don't have 12k effective life. pause on that big hit you took - that's around my total HP.
But Zana has a bubble you can hide in, assuming you didn't let an Anomaly explode there.
And there are audio and visual cues for everything.
This is much better design for a hard fight, in my opinion. Fair design.

Chayula must have been made by the same guy who did Elder and Eradicator.
you can probably face-tank both with that build you have, but it doesn't make any of them any less BS.

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Boem wrote:

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de99ial wrote:

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pr13st wrote:

Apparently esh, tul and uul are girls according to wiki. The more I know..

Huh. I always thought "Lord" was adressed to man, "Lady" to woman.

Maybe they are traps?

So even the wiki and game have trouble figuring it out.

Peace,

-Boem-

Well since they're beyonders it's easy to imagine some crazy Slaanesh action going on there.

just killed Chayula in SSF HC using CI hiero (in my characters list). his physical still hurts (im pretty much armorless), but not as bad and can be kited nearly all fight long

the loot is trash tho. and gathering splinters is ridiculous for this kind of lackluster rewards. Same goes for all breach bosses except Xoph (amulet/upgraded amulets are solid).