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ShmooDude wrote:
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redrios wrote:
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kayella wrote:
It helps melee spectres and spiders. I'll add it to the build guide.


Hi everybody, I'm stunned to see many here use movement speed relating it to spectres

I can only think of MS for spectres being relevant when using the slower than snails monsters Blackguard undead (which I believe are really of the Zombie type monsters, like dripping dead).
Because EVF is one of those ridiculously slow monsters you mention.

That probably puts them in the realm of 1/3 a player's base movement speed which would require a 9x multiplier to cap them. 55% more doesn't really cut it in this case.


Yes exactly what I mean. Minion speed is a big improvement for spiders. They are not speed capped. And EVF become usable for mapping with 2x rings and MS support. So you can run EVF at about the same level as running RK.

Of course ranged spectres don't need movement speed because they shoot from range, so that why I said the bench craft is easier. You can change the craft if you switch between spectres or builds. You can even keep the craft.
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sickinsight2 wrote:
Is Sovereignty worth 3 skill points worth it if I only use Wrath, Skitterbots and (hardly ever) Vaal Haste?

My alternative on the skill tree is more minion life and Redemption.


Try without.

Haste + Phase/Watcher's Eye is for survivability (prevent body blocking). I don't think I can survive mapping without perma phasing: https://youtu.be/qKFX0Dpt0oE

You can try a different aura. Maybe Aspect of the Avian?
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Last edited by kayella on Jun 2, 2020, 11:53:11 PM
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Awisp wrote:
Howdy - I'm currently in SSFHC and running slave drivers. Now that I'm able to get the redemption sentries easily I'm wondering when to swap to redemption.

Is it necessary to have +spectres boots/chest? Have a +1 wand, 6l chest, 6.5k hp. 78% res

Slave drivers are melting everything but the clear is a little mild. (400k shaper dps per spectre)

It seems harder to calculate the Sentries dps since they have multiple attacks.

Do I need to run empower or get a +1 spectres boots before swapping? or will 3 be enough?



I think the +1 chest is the most important upgrade. 3 to 4 spectres is overall 33% more DPS. It also more projectiles (RS) or bigger aoe (SD) so more monsters will at the same time.

5th spectre is like a luxury. It will need gem level 25. Try to get it, but don't worry if you cannot get it. You can do everything in the game with 4 spectres.

Empower is a difficult decision. The overall DPS will stay the same because you lose damage support gem (spectre only gain 5% dmg per level), but extra spectre give more projectilees (better clear)
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Sergitu wrote:
HI there!

I'm using spider-spectre version, I have a trivial question, shield has CWDTS so I can cast directly desecrate, but she says to cast desecrate many times so... what's the trick in here?


In the early version, I had cwdt+desecrate+offering in shield and desecrate in helmet. Maybe you followed that? The shield combination is to make gameplay easier. Everything will proc. And self cast desecrate in helmet.

I checked your character and you unlinked desecrate in shield. That is good. And phase run in helmet also good.


I use this for my S&S (and it will be in 3.11 version):



VMS is my left mouse, so it is activated when I have full charges. I self cast offering and convocation.
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Helanra wrote:
I die so many times... Can someone look at my Char Asra_Delirium and told me what i do wrong? I Play with RS. My AG is dead, so i Play with Raise Zombi and Stone Golem. In my Shield i change to cwtd, Bone Offering and Immortal Call.


Try the new tree. It is more efficient for S&S. It has more over life and life recovery is mor effective.

Double cluster: https://pastebin.com/AhWK94sT
Single cluster: https://pastebin.com/SiGDQyCS
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Last edited by kayella on Jun 3, 2020, 12:30:45 AM
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alexashko wrote:

I craft minion speed on 1 ring and amulet, not high grade and I think it ok. Blight, legion doing norm.
I think about second weapon to boss fight with minion damage and smth else.


Buy a temple wand for 5c. Second Vic's is 1c.

https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Delirium/8nkJBD8iV

66% dmg / 5% DD is about the same DPS as 80% wand. And 80% wands are very expensive.

Actually I used my cheap 5c wand almost all league even though I have other gear worth many exalts ^^
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If anyone is wondering,

I'm already planning for 3.11. Unfortunately GGG is changing the passive tree again, so I will have to wait until it is available to make build guides. But I will try to have a guide ready soon after patch notes!

I think I will change the tree to be more left side and build for life instead of hybrid. It seems to be better overall and cheaper for gearing.

Builds will be similar to 3.10. League starter + build options. I might drop PoH build completely though. I tried to get it to work in 3.10, but it didn't feel more powerful than wand + shield (but less protection).

So 1. League start 2. Diadem/EB & MoM 3. S&S 4. multicraft helmet

I also want to organise the build guide with more help for people. So some build recommendation for type of spectre: League start -> choose 1 spell spectre (all round) 2. spiders (fast map clearing) 3. range attack (high damage) 4. melee (high damage).

GGG said cluster jewels will stay. So maybe I can also include tier.

1. no cluster 2. single cluster 3. double cluster



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kayella wrote:
If anyone is wondering,

I'm already planning for 3.11. Unfortunately GGG is changing the passive tree again, so I will have to wait until it is available to make build guides. But I will try to have a guide ready soon after patch notes!

I think I will change the tree to be more left side and build for life instead of hybrid. It seems to be better overall and cheaper for gearing.

Builds will be similar to 3.10. League starter + build options. I might drop PoH build completely though. I tried to get it to work in 3.10, but it didn't feel more powerful than wand + shield (but less protection).

So 1. League start 2. Diadem/EB & MoM 3. S&S 4. multicraft helmet

I also want to organise the build guide with more help for people. So some build recommendation for type of spectre: League start -> choose 1 spell spectre (all round) 2. spiders (fast map clearing) 3. range attack (high damage) 4. melee (high damage).

GGG said cluster jewels will stay. So maybe I can also include tier.

1. no cluster 2. single cluster 3. double cluster





Thanks for the guide. One thing I would recommend that I saw in other build guides is create links to trade site for items.
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kayella wrote:
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Helanra wrote:
I die so many times... Can someone look at my Char Asra_Delirium and told me what i do wrong? I Play with RS. My AG is dead, so i Play with Raise Zombi and Stone Golem. In my Shield i change to cwtd, Bone Offering and Immortal Call.


Try the new tree. It is more efficient for S&S. It has more over life and life recovery is mor effective.

Double cluster: https://pastebin.com/AhWK94sT
Single cluster: https://pastebin.com/SiGDQyCS


Thanks a lot Kay! But the code will not work in POB Fork. Error 302. Do you have another one?
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kayella wrote:
If anyone is wondering,

I'm already planning for 3.11. Unfortunately GGG is changing the passive tree again, so I will have to wait until it is available to make build guides. But I will try to have a guide ready soon after patch notes!

I think I will change the tree to be more left side and build for life instead of hybrid. It seems to be better overall and cheaper for gearing.

Builds will be similar to 3.10. League starter + build options. I might drop PoH build completely though. I tried to get it to work in 3.10, but it didn't feel more powerful than wand + shield (but less protection).

So 1. League start 2. Diadem/EB & MoM 3. S&S 4. multicraft helmet

I also want to organise the build guide with more help for people. So some build recommendation for type of spectre: League start -> choose 1 spell spectre (all round) 2. spiders (fast map clearing) 3. range attack (high damage) 4. melee (high damage).

GGG said cluster jewels will stay. So maybe I can also include tier.

1. no cluster 2. single cluster 3. double cluster






Thanks Kay. When I started with this build, the first thing I wondered was which spectre to use. So maybe I would make a small summary at the start describing the recommended spectre for start/mid league/end league or something like that. Or how to transition from one to another.

I will surely start with this build, it took me to all the endgame on Delirium and I had lots of fun. Will wait for your updates!!



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