Here are the gem details for the reworked Power Siphon!

I can live with this rework :)
Thank you
Hf :)
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Velari wrote:
Yeah, "rework" is apparently just code for "buff the ever-loving fuck out of something because we've lost complete control over what our game once was and aren't even trying to keep hold of the reigns anymore."


Because people get butthurt when they nerf the 3 outliers instead of buffing the 27 trashbags, It cheapens the experience somewhat but at least my usual mid-tier builds will perform a bit better.
Soo...


Dual poets pen, Vaal power siphon + blind + faster attacks + curse on hit + temp chains + pierce


Blinding, power charge generation, cursing, cull... have I missed anything here?

Seems very overpowered.

Cheers,
Matt.
There are 10 types of people. Those that know binary, and those that dont.
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essemoni wrote:

have I missed anything here?


Occultist + Zerphi's Heart
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I_NO wrote:
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CAKE wrote:
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I_NO wrote:
That is actually pretty fucking good lol

But is it CoC enought to beat KB in mf build? That is the question.


Could rival it at most. People are still going to use barrage for single target so that didn't change.

You can use either though really but 100% sure kb is still better PS can be used now though if you wanted too so that's nice.


How is it better than barrage ? Only thing I can think of is if the projectile are thrown on the side and doesn't shotgun.
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鬼殺し wrote:
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sidtherat wrote:
so this is effectively Skill + PCoC + Inc Crit Strike + one damage multiplier (150% effectiveness) + pseudo GMP..

and what kind of dumb it requires to be dumb enough to play Glacial Hammer or Ground Slam or Sweep? serious question. because this skill not only is a 4L out of the box but it also doesnt require you to aim. at the same time 'namelock' functionality in POE is from late 90's and SUCKS massively on technical grounds

btw new PS < old KB so..


...They're not done yet.

If I'm right and I've spotted TencentGGG's approach, then all of the skills you named will, sooner rather than later, be the conditional equivalent of 4L out of the box.




I don’t think it’s really fair to blame this one on Tencent. Since GGG claims non-interference is important to them, I doubt they’d let Tencent interfere before the deal is even done.

I see this as inevitable. GGG adds more and more skills every patch. The design space is getting pretty damn crowded. Recent skills have had more and more mechanics jammed into the base behavior. Recent supports have been more multipliers with a drawback. The skills that are good are the ones that mechanically have good coverage or good single target before any links are added and you just stack more multipliers on them for extra damage. They could try nerfing the shit out of things like sunder and KB, but that has negative effects on the league hype and it will push their design towards the mechanically simple skills which keeps the design space tight. It makes more sense from a business and a game design standpoint to bring the trend of “flavor supports built into the skill” to their skill redesigns because it builds hype and it gives them more room to work with in their skill designs by raising the number of mechanics that are acceptable to build in.
How about using this new Power Siphon to trigger Cast on Critical Strike?
Two-handed - Mop
Dual Wield - Slippers
One-handed & Shield (close combat) - Brush & Basin
One-handed & Shield (ranged) - Hair Dryer & Mirror
Main-hand & Off-hand (evil witch) - Sponge & Soap
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Vesuvius079 wrote:

I don’t think it’s really fair to blame this one on Tencent. Since GGG claims non-interference is important to them, I doubt they’d let Tencent interfere before the deal is even done.

Claim. Im just going to go a few weird side of Tencent.

After this, you will hopefully see that GGG simply took their retirement funding.

Tencent is not a about gaming. IT has a division but that is it!

Facts to know before we start.

You never heard of them but:

a) Co-founder Ma Huateng, nickname Pony Ma, is the 14th richest person in the world with a fortune of almost $50bn, one place below Google co-founder Sergey Brin.

b)Tencent is one of three Chinese internet behemoths, including Baidu and Alibaba, known collectively as BAT.

c) They own equities of 18 % Kingsoft Network Technology, 93% of Riot Games, 12% of Snap, and the list goes on and on and on.... Tesla, Ativision blizzard, and more and more. Do a search! You might be surprised of results!

d) On January, 2015, Tencent launches WeBank (China), China's first online-only bank.

e) It also owns the majority of China's music services (Tencent Music Entertainment), with more than 700 million active users and 120 million paying subscribers, the world's largest and most profitable.


Just a few things...

Total assets CN¥554.672 billion (2017)

1. 360 v. Tencent
(The short version)
360 vs Tencent is a dispute between two Chinese IT companies, Tencent and Qihoo(360), over competition practices that has escalated in November 2010

Qihoo released a privacy guard software that shows QQ's suspicious spying activities on its users. Tencent responded with a fabricated report alleging Qihoo was under investigation for ads involving pornographic web sites.

Qihoo also updated the privacy guard to block ads in QQ, to Tencent's furious objections including an unfair competition lawsuit and later an update that blocks itself from running on machines with 360 Safeguard installed.

Get lost Tencent! Adblock4life

Spoiler
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/360_v._Tencent


2. The business started in cramped Shenzhen offices in the late 1990s, swiftly developing a bad reputation for cloning digital products for the Chinese market, but it was the launch of WeChat in 2011 that supercharged the company’s strategy.

Why Would it be important about cloning ? China ---> Cloning ---> Old News

Since then, it’s overtaken Facebook, bought stakes in Snapchat, Tesla and Hollywood films, and has quietly risen to rival Google and Netflix

Spoiler
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2018/jan/13/tencent-the-500bn-chinese-tech-firm-you-may-never-have-heard-of


3. Even if they are copying thief, they will sue anyone doing similar to them.
They will sue about anyone and even Epic Games. The ones that made the unreal engine they use for some of the games they developed.

4. Tencent has worked with Chinese authorities, helping the police to uncover 30 cases and arrest 120 people over alleged involvement in making PlayerUnknown’s Battlegrounds cheats. Those convicted in the past have done jail time. <---- Yeah, this would hopefully only happen in China...


Conclusion: When GGG sold their soul to Tencent. They said Tencent would leave them freedom. It has never been the case in the past and will not be the case here either.
Last edited by petitcrabe1#0259 on May 30, 2018, 8:21:08 AM
Think we need a specific version of Godwin's Law to cover this forum.
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Heartsease wrote:
How about using this new Power Siphon to trigger Cast on Critical Strike?

Then you are stuck with a 4 link CoC or no 6 link for boss.

Barrage > Siphon
KB > Siphon

The only thing I see would be a Piscisitor... That still sound like weak sauce.

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Shagsbeard wrote:
Think we need a specific version of Godwin's Law to cover this forum.

I dont think you know what Godwin's law is.
Last edited by petitcrabe1#0259 on May 30, 2018, 8:28:28 AM

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