Very concerned.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA - these tears sustain me. Tencent has literally ruined/influenced ZERO games in the Western World. Zero. Despite owning/having stakes in some of the biggest and most successful western gaming companies. You reets are fucking ridiculous. Paragon was the deadest game EU/US long before Tencent. [Removed by Support]

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kuciol wrote:

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gandhar0 wrote:

Supporter packs + MTX prices should decrease in price by 80%, or at least 50%.
To compentate for this there may be experimentation with subscription based funding models for custom leagues (15$ / month) or buy to play expansions (60$+).

I guess the big reveal will start with 4.0, optimally sooner.

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PicsRweapZ wrote:

Good news is they will have a auction house soon now

Bad news is it will sell ex for $$$

This is getting more and more ridiculous. Keep it up, its actually amusing.

Dont get what is amusing about this.
B2P expansions would replace 60$ supporter packs (you buy them anyways if you support GGG) and subscription based custom leagues would need money for the extra server upkeep, as a load of custom map mods need more CPU cores.
The GGG standard leagues them self would still be free.

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gandhar0 wrote:

Dont get what is amusing about this.
B2P expansions would replace 60$ supporter packs (you buy them anyways if you support GGG) and subscription based custom leagues would need money for the extra server upkeep, as a load of custom map mods need more CPU cores.
The GGG standard leagues them self would still be free.

Excpet it didnt happen in any single game they own.

There will be more diablo clones. Fun while it lasted.

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Acolina87 wrote:

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Antnee wrote:

GGG didn't do an Auction House / PTW for ethical reasons. Tell me, which gigantic Chinese companies do you know that hold back on (massive) profits because "ethics"?

I dont associate chinese companies with ethical reasons. You just cant put those two together. FeelsRipMan well shiet back to cancer doto 2 then i guess.

Oh btw INC RMT AuctionHouse PogChamp?

Snort! The Xenophobia around here today is palpable!

You mean, unlike the highly ethical American companies that created the sub-prime crash by magically merging junk equities and selling them as quality investment vehicles, or the British paragon of ethics: Cambridge Analytica, or the Australian banking industry that failed to comply with anti-money laundering rules, charged for advice never provided and concealed information from the securities commission, or Enron, or the master himself Bernie Madoff.

Every country has companies that are unethical, it is not isolated to China. It is the nature of greed, corruption and inadequate governance and accountability. Those traits are not solely Chinese.

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lurker14ownz wrote:

Lets just hope tencents interests are the chinese version and they will leave our version alone.

This... let GGG experiment with all of the P2W and lootbox features that the Chinese/Korean player base craves like illegal street drugs and keep the cool mechanics for us Western players.

Isn't tencent just using your in-game policy of using the plebs to make money?

Peace,

-Boem-

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Aldora_the_Summoner wrote:

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Acolina87 wrote:

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Antnee wrote:

GGG didn't do an Auction House / PTW for ethical reasons. Tell me, which gigantic Chinese companies do you know that hold back on (massive) profits because "ethics"?

I dont associate chinese companies with ethical reasons. You just cant put those two together. FeelsRipMan well shiet back to cancer doto 2 then i guess.

Oh btw INC RMT AuctionHouse PogChamp?

Snort! The Xenophobia around here today is palpable!

You mean, unlike the highly ethical American companies that created the sub-prime crash by magically merging junk equities and selling them as quality investment vehicles, or the British paragon of ethics: Cambridge Analytica, or the Australian banking industry that failed to comply with anti-money laundering rules, charged for advice never provided and concealed information from the securities commission, or Enron, or the master himself Bernie Madoff.

Every country has companies that are unethical, it is not isolated to China. It is the nature of greed, corruption and inadequate governance and accountability. Those traits are not solely Chinese.

All true.

However, this is Path of Exile, which is an online video game. Anyone who knows anything - anything at all - about the Chinese/Korean online video game market is pathologically terrified of it breaking quarantine and making its way out of the Containment Zone. People think horseshit like Destiny 2 or Battlefront Debacle is bad? They have factually not even begun to see blatant disrespectful profiteering yet. Tencent is the Chinese online gaming market. I believe they're the biggest player in that market, and certainly one of its most influential drivers.

Now yes, I'll allow as their interest is primarily in the Chinese version of the game - which Chinese business law meant they basically already owned, because you're not allowed to do business in China without a 'Chinese partner' that basically gets to dictate to you what is done in China with your product. I'm not even kidding; the original developer of a Something that's put up for sale in the Chinese market has to give up control of that thing in said market to a local Chinese company, which may or may not comply with your vision or desire for that thing. Nor are you allowed to terminate that agreement if a Tencent decides to take your product/service/offering in a direction you'd rather slit your own throat than go.

Nevertheless. Tencent is likely interested primarily in the Chinese version of the game, but I can't help but wonder to myself, "if all they wanted was the Chinese version, which they already had effectively complete control over, then why buy the rest of Grinding Gear? The only thing they gain by doing so is control over the international game as well. There's something fishy in this; it smells like perfect World acquiring/shitting grievously on Champions Online all over again..."

Now okay, I get that Chris and company enjoy things like eating and pooping in working toilets and having clothes and all those things you generally need money to do. I've never been terribly averse to paying them for their work, as you can clearly tell from my collection of bad Idea Badges over there. But whatever their little announcement article says, you do NOT get to be the scrappy li'l underdog independent game developer working on a passion project once you're owned by Tencent. Once you're owned by Tencent, you're in the same bucket as an EA subsidiary company.

That's not a healthy or optimistic bucket to be in, and it does bad things for my optimism for PoE.

You dont sell your company that you worked so hard to create if things are going great. This is the begining of the end. I damn sure am not spending anything else on this game. This is how the world works though kids. The thing you love is now in the hands of people who dont even care about it. Marvel heroes tried to make it out like things were great when dave sold it too. That didnt end well at all.

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Malice4201 wrote:

This is the begining of the end.

I'm really starting to wonder whether Einhar was actually hinting at that.