Unofficial Community PvP Balance (eHLD and eLLD)
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The following is a community ruleset aimed at encouraging new players to get into PvP at a lower cost while increasing the number of available builds!
If you want to join the PvP discussion and theory crafting: https://discord.gg/UdCv5mM Or just post in the forums and there will be plenty of people willing to help! Rules eHLD - High Level Dueling ( recommend 85+ ) eHLD events will be held in the Permanent Standard League
eHLD RULES
Open Profiles Unique Equipment Only No Beneficial Corruptions No 4 Property Rare Jewels Each skill may only be linked to 3 support gems + Block Chance Reduction support gem The Block Chance Reduction support gem does not count towards the 3 support link maximum allowing for 5links if "Block Chance Reduction" support is used. Banned Items: All Unique Flasks Poet's Pen All Abyss Jewels Legacy or Bestiary Items Watcher's Eye Reckless Defense Indigon Xirgil's Crank Aegis Aurora Asenath's Chant Kitava's Thirst All Enchants Atziri's Reflection Sunblast Cloth Belt Gloomfang Blue Pearl Amulet Thousand Teeth Temu One Rare Item Allowed (gloves, boots, helm) Only Resist Suffix Allowed Only Life/Energy Shield/Evasion/Armour Prefix Allowed 30% Movementspeed Max on boots No elder/shaper/essence/legacy rolls Banned Skills: Blight Explosive Arrow Kinetic Blast Glacial Cascade Volatile Dead Bear Trap Minefield Cluster Trap/Multitrap Cast When Damage Taken Cast When Stunned Cremation Blade Vortex Rain of Arrows Flameblast Ball Lightning Frost Wall CANNOT be linked with Spell Cascade support Banned Ascendancy Nodes: Pathfinder - Scion Ascendant Flesh Binder - Witch Necromancer Nature's Boon - Ranger Pathfinder Rules eLLD - Low Level Dueling ( level 28 ) eLLD events will be held in the Temporary Challenge Leagues
eLLD RULES
Open Profiles Magic/Rare/Unique Equipment Allowed (Rare rules below) No Beneficial Corruptions 3 supports per skill Maximum No 4 Property Rare Jewels No Quality Gems No Incursion Temple Mods Banned Items: All Unique Flasks All Legacy Items Poet's Pen All Abyss Jewels Watcher's Eye All Enchants Tempestuous Steel Doomfletch Skin of the Lords Seven-League Step Hinekora's Sight Asenath's Gentle Touch The Red/Blue/Green Nightmare Collateral Damage Abberath's Hooves Banned Skills: Volatile Dead Minefield Barrage Blade Vortex Blast Rain Blade Flurry Rain of Arrows Mirage Archer Support Gem Molten Shell Cremation Flame Blast Rare Items Rules +69 to Maximum Life is the highest life allowed on a piece of gear 109% Physical Damage is the maximum Physical Damage that can be on a weapon Elreon Jewelry cannot have more than 3 mods No Multi-mod items allowed No legacy rolls Please Read
FAQ
21/20 and 20/23 gems count as beneficial corruptions (banned) Talismans count as beneficial corruptions (banned) White sockets DO NOT count as beneficial corruptions (allowed) If the 4th property of your rare jewel is 100% useless to your build you can use it You cannot bypass the 3 supports per skill rule with items that grants supports You can use a 6link to obtain three "4links" with clever support choices When using Curse On Hit support gem you count the linked Curses as Support gems for rules League Specific items are NOT Legacy Items An ascended character is not eligible queue into LLD For LLD Rares Strength or Implicit rolls do not count towards Maximum Life limit For LLD non Elreon Jewelry have no limit to number of properties Vaal Skill Gem Variations do NOT count as a beneficial corruption During an Event, players may NOT use regret orbs to change their passive tree between rounds and or matches for the duration of the Event Players must have an Open Profile during the Event and for one hour after the Event Keep in mind that these are subject to change In 3.3 the PvP community will host a 6 week unofficial PvP season using the rules posted above https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2149486 In an ideal world there would be no need for a ban list but that isn't the reality we live in for modern PoE so let me take a bit of time to explain the general bans for players understanding. All rules fall under four categories: Accessibility Cost Reduction Balance Simplicity More information will be posted as we get closer
Intention
The intention of the rules is to provide new and old pvpers a fair start to get into PvP and understand what PvP could be in PoE. Banning Legacy items and beneficial corruptions is an example of Accesibility, even if there were many PvP builds that did not need those players without access to them immediately can feel that they do not have the tools to even participate. Banning 21 gems is to drastically reduce the cost of experimenting and making sure players do not feel they lose matches because their opponent simply has higher level gems in all their sockets by throwing exalts at the same build. 4links Max is for balance, PvP damage is too high and no one wants competitive PvP in PoE to be two players trying to one shot the other offscreen when the match starts and they do not even see the other player. Simplicity is a double edged sword: there are some great flasks that are not broken in PvP but many that are and an exhaustive detailed list that is 30 pages long of PvP rules will turn off players. It isn't a perfect system but it was what the PvP community could agree on would be a nice way to start.
These rules are new, designed to force veteran PvPers to learn a new Meta, so take the time to learn with them and keep giving us feedback.
Monsta's 3.2 eHLD Tournament
3.3.a Rule Change Log
Tuesday June 5th LLD Blade Vortex Ban LLD minefield support gem ban LLD Blast Rain Ban LLD Barrage Ban LLD Rare Rule Adjustment LLD Tempest Mod Ban various clarifications
3.3.b Rule Change Log
Thursday June 7th HLD Sire of Shards Serpentine Staff Ban HLD Blade Vortex Skill Gem Ban LLD The Green Nightmare Jewel Ban
3.3.c Rule Change Log
Saturday June 16th LLD Lycosidae Ban LLD Blast Rain UNBANNED LLD Magic Equipment Allowed (clarification)
3.3.d Rule Change Log
Sunday June 17th NO MORE LLD ADJUSTMENTS BEFORE EVENT #2 LLD Blast Rain Ban (AGAIN) LLD Rain of Arrows Ban LLD Lacerate Ban LLD Blade Flurry Ban HLD Rain of Arrows Ban
3.3.e Rule Change Log
Thursday June 21st Lacerate UNBANNED Lycosidae Rawhide Tower Shield UNBANNED this was based off some vocal people popping out
3.3.f Rule Change Log
June 23rd LLD Shrapnel Shot skill BANNED LLD Mirage Archer skill BANNED
3.3.g Rule Change Log
Friday June 29th HLD Flameblast banned
3.3.h Rule Change Log
July 2nd LLD Shrapnel Shot UNBANNED LLD Collateral Damage jewel Banned
3.3.i Rule Change Log
July 7th HLD Thousand Teeth Temu BANNED HLD The Surrender BANNED Sire of Shards UNBANNED Atziri's Reflection BANNED Queen of the Forest UNBANNED Ball Lightning BANNED Frost Wall CANNOT be linked with Spell Cascade support LLD Cremation BANNED
3.3.j Rule Change Log
July 8th HLD the Surrender UNBANNED HLD Mirage Archer BANNED LLD Molten Shell BANNED
3.3.k Rule Change Log
July 9th LLD Abberath's Hooves BANNED LLD Flame Blast BANNED Last edited by ProjectPT on Jul 10, 2018, 1:04:57 AM Last bumped on Aug 14, 2018, 4:46:30 AM
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Great job setting this all up. Could be a really good thing for the community and PoE's future!
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We appreciate the time and attention you’re giving us! Hope you have as much fun as we do!
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Well, you already know I agree but I wanna give you a thank you here as well
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thanks, mr profiteering streamer!
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It's actually... good (or so it seems to me).
Good job on those and to everyone involved. If I still had an ounce of interest in the game I would be down for this but,alas , poe is now a massive pile of crap that I won't touch with a stick and I'm just checking this board because bad habits are hard to get rid of. I hope someone will record some of the games so I can still enjoy it from far away. EDIT: Hum, seems like you forgot legacy surgeon mod on flask or maybe the community thought that would allow other classes to fight against pathfinders/scion. Last edited by IceDeal on May 3, 2018, 3:17:51 AM
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Only uniques? So no rares??
Some years ago i was quite active in pvp maybe i give this a try when i came up with such a build. Good to se ea is baned!!! Since its been years i was into pvp, does anyone know som good skills/unique combos? -~Shop for the price awarded player~- view-thread/375747 Last edited by trashs1 on May 3, 2018, 3:25:18 AM
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" we'll come up with a lot of guides soon "You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
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Fist of all let me congratulate you for this concept and all the people involved. It is indeed needed for pvp competition to be player controlled in games like this. Its the only available option.
Because once u change a T value another skill gem will just take its place. I got a couple of things to say and im also interested into be proved wrong: As we know, this is a builders/crafters game, not a skillful arena game - since you can clear the whole game with just one button. Just like F1 is a constructers race, not much of a pilots race. The intention of using uniques only and the gear balance seems like theres an idea of "winning by skill" behind it. Which in my opinion is totally out of context. This not wow arena. The kb/ea/sr/volatile cesspool from current pvp will also come up in the "6 week unofficial PvP season" and you will only need 1 week to realise that, 6 weeks are not needed at all. I think its more engaging to look for gear upgrades and to craft your own items. I was thinking about this subject and a few ideas came up to my mind. A legacy kaoms chest swap/weapon swap with 21 gems (i.e.) from your inventory, mid fight, will not show up on the "web open profile" in time. Even the whole pvp rounds can end faster than the web page gets to update even... (also open profiles for some pvp ppl is not an option to consider) I think that for your rules to work one of two things needed to be implemented: Either the option to inspect a players gear for a 3rd person inside the arena: spectator/judge Or A "clean arena" option where mtx's and skin transfers could not be used. If this was an option, and some item with specific art were to be used by a player, it would be noticeable. Say a banned Kaom's Heart. Since none of this features are in game. Id take a whole different aproach. The one being of just "skills prohibited", since even with mtx's, they are evident. Also an event every weekend with a prize pool payed by the participants. Say a 10ex prize or a legacy item for each. People want to register for an even, play and get rewarded as fast as possible and then go try again. Its 2k18. And a "best of class" i.e. slayer only event or a witch only event is also nice. From my ppov, since there isnt skill involved neither crafting and gear upgrading on this format, i cant seem to get interested eventho im a pvp lover. (from rank13 vanilla wow to 2k arena or d3cl enthusiast) I honestly hope this develops into something great! ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈ ♈
Ign: @Yavvyred STD Trade/Craft/Carry: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2289358 | |
" This is the only problem of this particular concept in my opinion as well. Poe pvp will never be about mechanical game play skill and these rules are sort of implying otherwise. I know that for many the only reason they have played pvp is because of the depth of build designing. The more restrictions there are, the more of that aspect of the game disappears. One could argue that all that is left is the fairly horrible and clunky game play of poe pvp and the nearly non-existant build options. I'll participate in this regardless as long as there is something fun to plan around. |
