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So, GGG tells us this about Barrage...
"We don't want to simply reduce the damage of the skill...We're currently trying out a version of the skill...and reducing the damage to compensate."
Oh jeez! You don't want to reduce damage, so you're reducing damage. Why not just say directly you're nerfing it and reducing the damage? Too simple? Too straightforward? Think people can't handle the truth up front? Adding a projectile doesn't compensate for reducing damage when not all Barrage projectiles hit since they're in a spread and not all in a single file line. So now its maybe 2 of 5 projectiles missing instead of 1 of 4 missing (before extra projectiles are figured in). So, taking a perfectly fine skill and just drop damage by 20% because you think too many use it? Yep, that's an improvement all right!
Instead of finding ways to fuck over the good things people like in the game, why not focus on making some of the bad things actually good? Or at least less bad? No one has a problem with Barrage, so there is no need to revamp it. If you want more bow users to use different skills, then make other skills more appealing/interesting. Don't make the skills people like less fun. If 100% of Path players want to do Barrage builds, so what? Let them! Screwing over things people like to get them to try something else, doesn't make them want to try something else, it makes them like the game less! And given the sheer number of other games available on PCs (nevermind console games, or mobile games!), liking the game less means losing players all because you want to force people to play stuff you want them to play instead of what the players want to play!
My english is not the best, so please excuse me.
I myself playing now for quite a time now. at least my Steam and my feeling says so. But actually the way PoE and GGG want to go, are to make people getting creative and not to stagnate on something,.... Like GGG described is it near to impossible to make other skills as powerful as Barrage cause of it's extreme kind, so they had to nerf it like most of the so nice skills in the past and every time it hurt, till mathil or someone else showed the world a new also pretty easy way to encounter the game with the same skill or something completly new just cause that is the Path. Inventing new builds and chars with kind of endless possibilities,... Some people think PoE serve to give people a constant feeling of boringness and infertility like Diablo is serving it, as example. GGG want you to force you, to use other skills to get some kind of new experience in and about the game.
And so the Game itself will improve.
Keep on going and peace :3
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Posted byOndrugson Apr 17, 2018, 12:18:18 PM
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You said rain of arrows could not compete with other bow skills that pierce late in the game. How competitive is it now as far as clear speed for mapping? Would love to see some video of rain arrow clearing some t14 or something to put this into context.
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Posted byKohelethon Apr 17, 2018, 12:35:51 PM
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Sure. Read my post history.
"I still don't think they play test new gems and gem nerfs. If they do, they're terrible at it."
"I tried to play today for the first time in over a week, and it was just zero fun. I think I'm just genuinely sick of the decisions GGG makes on almost a weekly basis for the past 6 months. "
"I spent a lot of time being angry on the forums and now I'm just completely done caring. I think this all got too big for GGG honestly. They have zero direction anymore, and it shows from the not so well thought out leagues and new skills that aren't even worth using, to the knee jerk reactions from reddit complaints. They're in perpetual catch up mode. You'd think the players were creating the content the way GGG attacks their own mechanics after seeing them used. Do they even know what they want end game to be?"
"If you want to complain, go to reddit. GGG doesn't read the forum."
(btw, that's wrong)
"This is how GGG has operated for quite a while now. They have no idea how to adjust things. Incremental changes are a foreign concept to them. They just gut things and move on."
"I don't even care anymore."
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I thought it was implied that you should focus on relevant posts... Keep spending your time on this XD
Cringe and disrespect are not relevant? Oh my.
I have plenty of time.
I shall purify you in flame, noob of nightmare!
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Posted byNecronus2828on Apr 17, 2018, 12:42:17 PM
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I honestly don't care about any of this anymore until the garbage uber trials are more common. Everytime I get to that point, I can't bring myself to continue playing this fucking slot machine.
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Posted bydyneolon Apr 17, 2018, 12:49:19 PM
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So far, don't see anything interesting or exciting about all these "big skill changes" tbh.
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Posted bykainajon Apr 17, 2018, 12:53:47 PM
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the only ability I use for wand, and it's going to ruin I'm going to play poe.
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Posted byharlison100on Apr 17, 2018, 1:16:37 PM
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the only ability I use for wand, and it will ruin I will stop playing poe
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Posted byharlison100on Apr 17, 2018, 1:17:48 PM
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Chin Sol's Empire Grasp Rain of Arrows single target PogChamp
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Posted byEliseushon Apr 17, 2018, 1:19:20 PM
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Ppl use barrage because this is the 1 and only single target Bow/Wand skills.(Ok, you can count blast rain as single target, but without 100% conv it sux + how does point blant work with blast rain??)
Maybe add some more single target options so there won't be problem with "barrage is everywhere"
This shit won't solve the problem. Barrage is still only 1 option for Bows/Wands, the biggest problem here is fact that GGG want's everything to be equal, Melee champs - same dmg and life as Casters/Rangers. And now they are nerfing Rangers because they "does more dmg than others".
Wooo-hooo, in next 2 leagues the only difference between skills will be their Art/Effects.
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Posted bypiotrekplison Apr 17, 2018, 1:21:05 PM
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Looks great, but please PLEASE address movement skills. Whoever on the dev team reads this (if they even do) ask yourself. How many years has the community been talking about movement skills and "clear speed meta"? You guys have made some good changed to help rein in clear speed and some not so good changes (area needs to be looked at again).
In all of my years of playing, thousands and thousands of hours since closed beta. I dont think I want anything more in PoE than a movement skill rework. Movement skills need to be a conscious and meaningful decision; like to dodge a scary mechanic for instance. Movement skills should not be spammed endlessly until your playerbase gets RSI (repetitive strain injury. Its a real thing man). Buff base movement speed to compensate, put all movement skills on a 1-2 second cooldown. These ideas are probably not the best, yea i know. But anything man.
Maybe im talking to the wind here or maybe its irreverent here. But PLEASE consider a movement skill/movement speed rework.
TLDR; Please make skill revamps - part 4, be about movement skills....
I hope you read this:
Go try a fight like shaper or elder, their slam abilities require fast movement skills. I think my first character last league was dying over and over to elder, then i put in shield charge(ONLY CHANGE) and did it deathless
Life will be technically better Soon TM
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Posted bywaskelyon Apr 17, 2018, 1:32:55 PM
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