Witch - [3.6] Triple Herald Blade Vortex Elementalist - Forum

Just want to add this, there are so many questions and comments that have already been covered. The guide is being updated constantly and it has helped me to go back through it regularly (for 3.3).	Posted by glaxxon on May 30, 2018, 11:05:40 PM Quote this Post
" Ataz wrote: First of all THANKS for that awsome guide, hope to see an actual Incursion Update if you may revisit this build. My Idea for the BV Setup in Incursion. Blade Vortex - Hypothermia - Controlled destruction - Physical to Lightning - Power Charge on Critical - Increased Critical Damage / Concentrated Effect / Increased Critical Strike I think the "PCoC" + "Inc Crit DMG" could be a good (?the Best damagewise?) combo since they buffed "PCoC" when you go for an Power Charge focused Build. (and can maintain a good enought Crit Chance) Now some Questions: - Is it ok to pass on "Concentrated Effect" ? - Will this Setup reach enought Crit Chance to really work since i want to go for Increased "Crit Dmg" over "Crit Strike" - Can we Really pass on Spell Echo? wont it feel wierd in a way to Spin up Blades without that increased cast speed? Let me know what you think, and by you, i dont just mean the Author of this Guide, all opinnions are welcome. Feel free to Talk about your BV-Setup ideas, im keen to read them! Cheers! -Atazagora- i've already updated the guide for 3.3 update including the gem links. the 6th link is situational. conc effect is a must on end game bosses. pcoc can be good for mapping if you invest in power charges but bad for bossing if you start the fight without charges. efficacy is a good all-rounder, especially good if you decide not to allocate the second duration cluster on the tree. crit damage may work too but it depends on you gear. spell echo can be safely retired. it is a simple math - spell echo is 1.7 cast speed multiplier but we only have 1/2 max stacks now, so by dropping it you are still 2/1.7 = 17.6% ahead. and you no longer get the 10% less damage penalty. it is a no-brainer really. Last edited by DirtyDot on May 31, 2018, 12:21:40 AM	Posted by DirtyDot on May 30, 2018, 11:53:33 PM Quote this Post
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2150625/page/1 revamped hypothermia gem has been revealed and it hasn't been nerfed, so it stays in the build 20/20 vaal blade vortex is also revealed and it has been nerfed already - vaal vortex base duration is reduced from 5 to 3 seconds possibly making the 2 duration clusters version of the tree more appealing.	Posted by DirtyDot on May 31, 2018, 12:06:14 AM Quote this Post
Thanks for the update. I have a question on Inpulsa. If I can get a well-rolled 5L Inpulsa (say 48% for inc damage and 39% for inc effect), is it still worth it to get a poorly-rolled 6L Inpulsa (say 25%/30%), possibly for a couple of ex.	Posted by jjlocus on May 31, 2018, 12:15:08 AM Quote this Post
" jjlocus wrote: Thanks for the update. I have a question on Inpulsa. If I can get a well-rolled 5L Inpulsa (say 48% for inc damage and 39% for inc effect), is it still worth it to get a poorly-rolled 6L Inpulsa (say 25%/30%), possibly for a couple of ex. Yeah for sure!	Posted by Nephitis on May 31, 2018, 12:41:17 AM Quote this Post
Since blade vortex is hitting a lot quicker in 3.3 doesn't the dps also increase by that same amount of hits per second?	Posted by Beholdd on May 31, 2018, 1:00:59 AM Quote this Post
Can someone run the numbers and see if 3.3 is actually a buff or a nerf? Just because you drop spell echo and replace with a more modifier gem doesn’t mean It can beat losing 10 freaking blades. Not only that, they nerfed the flat pays per blade at Lvl 20. Unless the new stats make up for that somehow. I need to see some napkin math before I commit to this build. Thank you.	Posted by wooopaul11 on May 31, 2018, 1:42:38 AM Quote this Post
" Beholdd wrote: Since blade vortex is hitting a lot quicker in 3.3 doesn't the dps also increase by that same amount of hits per second? ... yes. But as it is hitting a lot quicker, max stack size was reduced. " wooopaul11 wrote: Can someone run the numbers and see if 3.3 is actually a buff or a nerf? Just because you drop spell echo and replace with a more modifier gem doesn’t mean It can beat losing 10 freaking blades. Not only that, they nerfed the flat pays per blade at Lvl 20. Unless the new stats make up for that somehow. I need to see some napkin math before I commit to this build. Thank you. You lose 10 blades but you're also hitting a shitton more per blade (10% increased hit rate per stack before to 35% per stack now). And getting a % more modifier while maintaining your average BV dps is huge, so in the end it's a buff for sure. And there's no flat phys per blade nerf, the values on the gem preview for 3.3 are the same as before (123 to 185 at lv 20). There was also a 5% increase in the "more damage for each blade", went from 30% to 35%. Last edited by leafyr0kr on May 31, 2018, 1:53:38 AM	Posted by leafyr0kr on May 31, 2018, 1:47:10 AM Quote this Post
" jjlocus wrote: Thanks for the update. I have a question on Inpulsa. If I can get a well-rolled 5L Inpulsa (say 48% for inc damage and 39% for inc effect), is it still worth it to get a poorly-rolled 6L Inpulsa (say 25%/30%), possibly for a couple of ex. 6 links is always going to be better and you can fix your bad rolls with a couple of divine orbs later on anyway	Posted by DirtyDot on May 31, 2018, 1:56:01 AM Quote this Post
" wooopaul11 wrote: Can someone run the numbers and see if 3.3 is actually a buff or a nerf? Just because you drop spell echo and replace with a more modifier gem doesn’t mean It can beat losing 10 freaking blades. Not only that, they nerfed the flat pays per blade at Lvl 20. Unless the new stats make up for that somehow. I need to see some napkin math before I commit to this build. Thank you. old bv at 20 stacks: 7 * 3 / 0.6 = 35 multiplier new bv at 10 stacks: 4.5 * 4.5 / 0.6 = 33.75 multiplier + 100% increased crit	Posted by DirtyDot on May 31, 2018, 1:57:45 AM Quote this Post