Announcing Path of Exile: Bestiary League

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LoloTwingo wrote:

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elemental_oasis wrote:

I agree with your sentiments. In my opinion, if a player can't kill the hunted animals/beasts without delay, I consider it cruelty and torture.

So when you run acts and maps, you always kill everything, you never leave any monster low life behind you ? You don't pay attention ? Oh god, this is torture !!
When you kill everything in your journey, while you could just run through them and leave them alive, no problem ?

On the other hand, you kill humans by dozens, but there's no problem because they instantly die and don't suffer ? I suppose you skip voricy missions when you must leave the rogue exile low life for an amount of time, because he suffers a few seconds ??

It's a game, the entire world, the monsters, everything is not even close to existing livings.
This whole "oh no it's torture/disguting/blah !" is just ridiculous, you all have a problem.

the simple answer
1.)I kill everything I encounter.
2.) I sometimes skip encounters (because of difficulty)
3.) I alwasy failed in vorci missions with keep target low life for xx secs
4.) the lucky ones that survived because I failed to encounter them being too lazy to search them in maps

I play this game but I can still relate to existing living things even though the dozen humans i killed don't look like the important people I know in my life or the beast/animals I killed don't look like my pets. But sometimes, I do feel sad why do I have to kill those cute koalas that magically dropped from the sky?

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elemental_oasis wrote:

but I can still relate to existing living things even though the dozen humans i killed don't look like the important people I know in my life or the beast/animals I killed don't look like my pets. But sometimes, I do feel sad why do I have to kill those cute koalas that magically dropped from the sky?

I must admit my answer was not precise enough (and i'm french, not so easy in english) :
I can understand this could hurt feelings of some (obviously i also don't like torture/... of animals or people), but in this PoE exapnsion case, don't you think asking the removal of the way the menagerie works is a bit too much (perhaps not you but most of hurted people here) ?
I can under the "complaints", but not the removal request, it's over reacting to me, that is what i find ridiculous.
Going this way, one should complain for -for example- most of the cinema movies, that would be a better war. For a game like PoE, come on.

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LoloTwingo wrote:

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elemental_oasis wrote:

but I can still relate to existing living things even though the dozen humans i killed don't look like the important people I know in my life or the beast/animals I killed don't look like my pets. But sometimes, I do feel sad why do I have to kill those cute koalas that magically dropped from the sky?

I must admit my answer was not precise enough (and i'm french, not so easy in english) :
I can understand this could hurt feelings of some (obviously i also don't like torture/... of animals or people), but in this PoE exapnsion case, don't you think asking the removal of the way the menagerie works is a bit too much (perhaps not you but most of hurted people here) ?
I can under the "complaints", but not the removal request, it's over reacting to me, that is what i find ridiculous.
Going this way, one should complain for -for example- most of the cinema movies, that would be a better war. For a game like PoE, come on.

Tha's why I made another suggestion/point after my first response to this topic and that was the contents of the menagerie should be corpses.

I am going that way too. I am actually against the extreme violence being played in cinemas. It makes me wonder why the society is very tolerant abouth violent contents and very antagonistic towards consensual sex contents like in porn. There is no violence in porn otherewise it's not porn (despite the nudities and sexual acts) it's pure violence. The cinemas should play less violence and more porn.

@LoloTwingo
My dear French friend. Even in computer games there is a difference between mass murdering people or other enemies and conscious tormenting of animals. Currently player goes through the world, the enemies, including animals, attack him, he defend himself and kills them. In addition, a large part of the monsters are zombies, skeletons and such creatures. Meanwhile, someone comes up with the idea that the entire 3-month league would be based on catching and tormenting animals. Who makes such things, even in games? Give an example of a movie dedicated to the "ritual torment of animals." There is no such thing, because it would be a movie for sadists, blocked by the authorities or the movie environment itself

They might as well add Disturbed's song "The Animal" to the supporter pack soundtrack. Would fit right in since this patch features capturing and sacrificing animals in satanic fashion.

Now!

I can feel the animal inside
My resolve is weakening
Pounding at the doors of my mind
It's nearly overpowering
I cannot begin to describe
The hunger that I feel again
Run if you intend to survive
For the beast is coming to life
Taking form in the glimmer in this tainted moonlight
Death approaches on this night

For the animal's soul is mine
We will be completed right before your eyes
I have no control this time
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

I can hear it calling again
The primal need is filling me
Changes are about to begin
And now my blood is boiling
I can see the fear in your eyes
But you can't bring yourself to scream
Time to shed the mortal disguise
For the beast is coming to life
Taking form in the glimmer of this tainted moonlight
Death approaches on this night

For the animal's soul is mine
We will be completed right before your eyes
I have no control this time
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

We begin the hunt and I
Feel the power course, as the creatures take flight
For the kill is close and I will be satisfied
For the smell of fear tonight
Wakes an ancient lust that will not be denied
You're mine

For the animal's soul is mine
We will be completed right before your eyes
I have no control this time
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

For the animal's soul is mine
And the world around will never hear your cries
An unholy crime
And now we both shall dine in Hell tonight

Seriously though, again, what a crappy league......its a mix of pokemon, monster hunter, and Michael Vick's free time, pass.

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srogi_kotek wrote:

Even in computer games there is a difference between mass murdering people or other enemies and conscious tormenting of animals.

Noone is going to torment animals. I also was confused about this when first watched announcement video, but then i realized that i misunderstood the concept. Instead of immediate killing them in map you capture them to kill later on arena (which is regular fight, not sacrifice nor torments).

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srogi_kotek wrote:

@LoloTwingo
Meanwhile, someone comes up with the idea that the entire 3-month league would be based on catching and tormenting animals. Who makes such things, even in games?

It's a tenable point of view.

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Give an example of a movie dedicated to the "ritual torment of animals." There is no such thing, because it would be a movie for sadists, blocked by the authorities or the movie environment itself

With animals ? I don't have examples in mind. But there is plenty with humans (Hostel, Saw, ...).
People seem less choked by violence on humans than on animals, because the later can't defend themselves i think. For example, in movies people die but the pet (usually a dog) always survive, and evryone is happy about this and "don't care" about people :D I have the same feeling and it's strange.

My feeling here is it's not real animals, but it's especially animals that instant attack you in the wild, they are not pets nor pacific beasts. That's why i think it's -a bit- different.


Anyway, glad to see we can sometimes have an argumented and peaceful discussion on this forum, good point. Respect to you two i talked to ;)

I, personally, disappointed with at least berserker change.

It makes caster berserker senseless, and thus close the possibilities. With such direction of
changes, we will came to static set of skills for each ascendancy, instead of skill tree.

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elemental_oasis wrote:

I play this game but I can still relate to existing living things even though the dozen humans i killed don't look like the important people I know in my life or the beast/animals I killed don't look like my pets. But sometimes, I do feel sad why do I have to kill those cute koalas that magically dropped from the sky?

The answer to that is pretty simple. Creatures of Wraeclast are corrupted and evil, they're not cute animals. If you read some of Tora's optional dialogue, she goes in depth about this. They're not animals that can't defend themselves, they're deadly and they're trying to kill you. I think the best thing to do is stop looking at them the way you look at real life animals and just look at them as monsters in a video game.

some peoples visions : Killing peoples is OK, but killing a zombie-tiranozaver is NOT OK.