[3.7] LL RF Scorching Ray Guardian | 19K ES | 52k Armour|1.5 mil dps| Uber Elder & HoGM DEATHLESS

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Mecielle wrote:

Well, of course everybody could change 15 passives around to path way out of the norm to get sustain and use 5 Healthy Mind instead of good jewels.

But if you ever revert to OP's pathing, you will have to get a regen Watchers Eye too, simple as that. Or make do with 100-150 unbuffed net regen.

Yet told others that it is totally easy to get 500 net regen. It isn't, you have to either invest a small amount of currency, or do what you are doing, path in a totally different way to get 83% fire res and more regen.

That is why I am very sure it will be a much more relaxed and safe playstyle to go for a regen Watchers Eye instead of a clarity mana to ES one. Except maybe vs Uber Elder, but who cares about that clusterfuck of a fight. Did it once on my MS Inquisitor, never again.

Also, you have been answering a lot of questions and giving advice and maybe overlooked me doing the same for the last few days. This is like my 20th RF build I have done in the last 4 years. I have 6000 hours played, you don't have to explain the very basics. I was just confused about your statement about how easy it was to sustain on this build.

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That's why I was saying it's necessary to not copy/past blindly his tree and custom it a bit for each other stuff.

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zzang wrote:

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That's why I was saying it's necessary to not copy/past blindly his tree and custom it a bit for each other stuff.

This is correct. I also state this in Q3 of my FAQ. An awful lot of people dont bother reading it although its printed fat in the first lines of the guide.

On a sidenote about ES jewel VS regen jewel: RF burns for 70% of energy shield and regeneration is based on maximum energy shield which means the gap between burn damage from RF and regeneration increases with increasing energy shield. Note that increasing the gap in absolute numbers will increase your relative regeneration. Its not a huge effect but its there.

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Bazztastic wrote:

so i'd be better off with the 20% es recovery rate than +18% es for mana for uber elder specifically?

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Mecielle wrote:

Well, of course everybody could change 15 passives around to path way out of the norm to get sustain and use 5 Healthy Mind instead of good jewels.

But if you ever revert to OP's pathing, you will have to get a regen Watchers Eye too, simple as that. Or make do with 100-150 unbuffed net regen.

Yet told others that it is totally easy to get 500 net regen. It isn't, you have to either invest a small amount of currency, or do what you are doing, path in a totally different way to get 83% fire res and more regen.

That is why I am very sure it will be a much more relaxed and safe playstyle to go for a regen Watchers Eye instead of a clarity mana to ES one. Except maybe vs Uber Elder, but who cares about that clusterfuck of a fight. Did it once on my MS Inquisitor, never again.

Also, you have been answering a lot of questions and giving advice and maybe overlooked me doing the same for the last few days. This is like my 20th RF build I have done in the last 4 years. I have 6000 hours played, you don't have to explain the very basics. I was just confused about your statement about how easy it was to sustain on this build.

I see what you are trying to point.
So, right here you have a 200+ raw positive regen life. I just removed items slot where OP and I use different items. So it's with no amu and no boots and 4 free jewels socked. Same condition. Same tree, just, all stuff variation from OP's build are set to "None" : https://pastebin.com/UgZTUJQ0
And here you have the same with OP stuff orientations : https://pastebin.com/VvmRPXGn
448 positive raw regen. Same situation in no bullshit buff no watcher eyes, etc.

What this show is simple : the problem here is not the stuff. It's the path followed in the tree. There is ~ 25-30 skill points difference between OP tree, and the one in this pastebin. So the switching between this tree to OP's tree should not cost more than 50 orb of regret (I count the bandit reward respect in count). We can easily say it's totaly negligible for a build that cost so much.

Now, to be clear, and don't face any misunderstanding ... What I'm trying to explain is, for player who does not already have the good watcher eye, and the same level of stuff than zzang, it's not unrelevant to folow a relativly different path and switch latter for OP's tree when they get the stuff, and enought experience in this build.
Because right now, from the review in this build, I see a bit to much of guys struggling with the RF degen with this build, and does not understanding how to solve this issue.
That's why I was saying it's necessary to not copy/past blindly his tree and custom it a bit for each other stuff.

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Smellyyy wrote:

Time to build this :)

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Mecielle wrote:

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Smellyyy wrote:

Time to build this :)

Gz, bought or dropped?