Watcher Eye Uhhh any thoughts?

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Vipermagi wrote:
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Boem wrote:
My gaurdian passive gives me like 6k ES, this jewel gives me another 6k ES. How exactly is that bugged?

...Yeah no that seems perfectly normal right, when the exact same modifier on the Hierophant Ascendancy is not nearly as potent. It's not hear-say, it's plain logic. Simple thought. Looking at numbers and seeing shit is obviously wrong.

It's well-known that the modifier should take your base Mana, and then apply Inc Mana and Inc ES additively; that is how Hatred works, that is how Sanctuary of Thought works. The Jewel, however, does not. That's why you get six thousand ES from fucking Clarity.

I really picked the worst two threads to look at for 2018, jesus christ.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2050823, since you apparently can't figure out that 6k ES from a Mana Regen Aura isn't working as intended.


I am comparing it to the gaurdian ascendancy that provides 15% base ES based on your reserved mana, not the hierophant.

I've never used that hierophant ascendancy.

but to me 15% es gained provided by your mana reservation and 15% extra es gained based of your base mana pool seems like the same deal. Correct me if i am wrong, perhaps i am.

But my gaurdian mana reservation gives me 6k ES and so does this jewel.(6800 base mana + 380% ES increase)

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
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Boem wrote:
but to me 15% es gained provided by your mana reservation and 15% extra es gained based of your base mana pool seems like the same deal. Correct me if i am wrong, perhaps i am.

Hm, now why would people mention Sanctuary of Thought and not Radiant Faith?
You don't have 6800 base Mana.

15% of Mana = 15% of base, which means unmodified, Mana. This value is then modified by Inc Mana and Inc ES additively *squawk*

15% of Reserved Mana = 15% of whatever amount of total Mana you Reserve. This value is then modified by Inc ES - and has effectively already been modified by Inc Mana previously.
Last edited by Vipermagi#0984 on Dec 31, 2017, 8:37:08 PM
We literally made 2k+ exalted's in terms of my group in selling those jewels even though knowing full well it's likely going to be guted.

We feel no shame in it actually we're fascinated of why some people don't think it's a bug it's fairly obvious too. But hey by all means.

Pray on the weak minded.
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Last edited by Coconutdoggy#1805 on Dec 31, 2017, 8:39:44 PM
I see, cheers, that does make around 3.5k es difference i feel going from intuition.

Not that i mind dropping from 13.5k es to 10k es won't do much to me. I can still fit in discipline and a shavronnes instead of a lorica and probably yield the same results.

All i got to say after that clarification : thank god i never played that hierophant node, that looks disappointingly weak.

Peace,

-Boem-

edit : i do have around 250% increased mana i think, so i reckon the hit won't even be that large for my particular build going from your explanation? Since i invest in mana%/base mana value's and %es(1600+ int)
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
Last edited by Boem#2861 on Dec 31, 2017, 8:43:22 PM
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I_NO wrote:
We literally made 2k+ exalted's in terms of my group in selling those jewels even though knowing full well it's likely going to be guted.

We feel no shame in it actually we're fascinated of why some people don't think it's a bug it's fairly obvious too. But hey by all means.

Pray on the weak minded.


How big is your group? I heard that jewel is insane rare so your group must be either huge or had insane luck?
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Vipermagi wrote:
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So i just ran some Pob stuff and the jewel would grant me 2.5k es all things combined, which is still fair for a jewel slot(lol).

Though honestly after looking at this, either hierophant is simply to weak, or gaurdian is to strong.

What side you leaning towards?

Peace,

-Boem-
Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes
no need to talk about it for long,

easy 80-90ex. even 1 mirror. EASY!

purity of fire is best for LL RF, clarity mod is best for LL RF. best jewel that LL RF can ever get.

TOOO GOOOOD.
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