General Discussion - Last Shaper Memory Fragment? - Forum

" ComputerPanda wrote: Since the Elder spawns as soon as you hit 20 Elder-influenced maps This is not true. You can see that the Elder and his guardians have spawned after 16 Edler influenced maps. It's all pretty much RNG, you just have to keep mapping and shaping till he shows up. There's no set number from what I can tell. Deliver pain exquisite Last edited by ultratiem#0592 on Dec 28, 2017, 7:25:47 AM	Posted by ultratiem#0592 on Dec 27, 2017, 7:57:16 PM Quote this Post
" ComputerPanda wrote: Been stuck on 14/15 for several days now, and have spent most of my time actively trying to get the last one. As far as I can tell, the Elder himself has to spawn in a clean (non-shaped) T15 map for this fragment, based on the quest text, and the fact that I have gotten him in a T14 but did not get the fragment. It's not enough to just do an Elder-influenced T15, or get a Guardian in a T15, or get Elder in a T10 and shape that to T15 (upon doing this, the map says "contains memory fragment", but the actual Elder fight in the map is a T10 one and not a T15 one, and no fragment drops upon completion). This RNG portion of the quest is beyond asinine. I've cleared over 20 Elder/Guardian sets in the last few days, all of them centered around clusters of red maps, and still have not gotten this fragment. The absolute best-case scenario is getting the Elder area to spread across the red clusters in the Hydra and the Chimera quadrants of the map, since the two red areas together contain 3 natural T15 maps (Reef, Sunken City, and Lava Lake). Since the Elder spawns as soon as you hit 20 Elder-influenced maps, having this area gives you the best chance to get him to spawn in a natural T15, but this chance is still only 3/20 or 15%. Since the starting Elder area will not always be in one of these quadrants, you might need to settle on having only two natural T15s in the zone before he spawns. At this point I'm going to have the endgame challenge completed before even getting to see the highest tier of the Elder, and I think that's incredibly stupid and poor design. Unless of course there is some hidden mechanic that I'm just completely missing, but I have tried everything I can think of and it all seems to boil down to RNG, yet again. I'm on 13/15 and trying to get 14/15 for a while now. How did you get it? Do you need Elder (or his guardians) to spawn on T15?	Posted by Eathb#4744 on Dec 28, 2017, 2:06:58 AM Quote this Post
Map fragment drops on a map equal to shaping orb it grants after giving fragment to Zana. So basically we need to know how many shaping orb are available for each tier to lure shaping influence to proper tier. Sitting on 14/15 myself. So far got these shaping orbs available. orb tier/amount: 1 - 1 2 - 1 3 - 1 4 - 1 5 - 1 6 - 1 7 - 1 8 - 2 9 - 3 10 - 2 If any one got more orbs for any of the tier, please post which tier it is, thanks. Id personally ignore it, because i don't need the orb, but cant get elder/shaper influence to t16, which, i presume, requires Memory quest be completed. Also, its damn annoying to fight elder guardians, elder on maps i don't want to be completed. My little whine.	Posted by RegionLock#7972 on Dec 28, 2017, 3:24:31 AM Quote this Post
It was my personal observation that keeping the shaper near made it easier to get fragments. Never had to fight guardians to get them	Posted by quicksixteen#1255 on Dec 28, 2017, 3:43:34 AM Quote this Post
Met someone last night who was also on 14/15, and managed to get Elder to spawn in a natural T15 (Lava Lake). He was kind enough to let me tag along for the fight, but unfortunately I did not get the fragment when Elder died (the guy got his last fragment no problem). So this at least confirms that we do, in fact, need Elder in a natural T15 and not anything else. Dunno if me not getting the shard was a bug or intended, since I've heard that other people have gotten lower-tier fragments by sharing. Back to playing Elder roulette I guess.	Posted by ComputerPanda#2616 on Dec 28, 2017, 7:18:28 AM Quote this Post
got my #14 and #15 in t15 maps inhabited by Shaper and a Guardian.	Posted by TheLoneliness#6484 on Dec 28, 2017, 8:01:17 AM Quote this Post
new system is retarded, badly programmed https://i.imgur.com/tnRcLdn.jpg its the second time elder decides to spawn guardians in tier 10- maps while majority of his influence is t11+ Last edited by berg3g#5070 on Dec 28, 2017, 5:36:21 PM	Posted by berg3g#5070 on Dec 28, 2017, 5:36:12 PM Quote this Post
Has anything come up how to finish this quest?	Posted by Zhatan#4250 on Jan 1, 2018, 3:57:55 PM Quote this Post
it isn't rocket surgery. you get elder influence over t15s and he has a chance to give you a memory fragment when you beat that map. it doesn't already need to be completed, it doesn't have to be corrupted, it doesn't need his guardians/elder on it - just his black influence over a t15 and pray to the gods his memory fragment shows up. it tells you when its in the map	Posted by xMustard#3403 on Jan 1, 2018, 7:27:36 PM Quote this Post
" xMustard wrote: it isn't rocket surgery. you get elder influence over t15s and he has a chance to give you a memory fragment when you beat that map. it doesn't already need to be completed, it doesn't have to be corrupted, it doesn't need his guardians/elder on it - just his black influence over a t15 and pray to the gods his memory fragment shows up. it tells you when its in the map this, just got the last one in a regular influenced t15 with no guardian/elder spawned Last edited by Randall#0850 on Jan 1, 2018, 7:32:24 PM	Posted by Randall#0850 on Jan 1, 2018, 7:31:53 PM Quote this Post