Fight against bots

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Demonoz wrote:

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lagwin1980 wrote:

GGG just ban the people using the bots, it's just a matter of time.

Actually im proud to say after a little investigation of my own a while back.. Its not a matter of time at all. In fact from what ive read its god damn near instant.

I checked those sites a couple years back when D3 was infested with Bots from demonbuddy (Much like it is again now) and it was kinda funny.. When you go to their forum for the D3 bot everyone is pretty much bragging what a joke warden is and how its basically a free for all with the occasional person posting about they got banned.. no ban wave in years ect.

POE bot forum on the other hand.. Well posts there were pretty much exactly the opposite. Everyone pretty much posting "How the fuck do you guys bot this game?" "I just got all my accounts banned almost instantly when i turned this thing on" And stuff like that with the occasional person posting to be able to bot in POE you pretty much need to go out of your way to avoid detection and even then... its a roll of the dice. Its possible but there is a lot more that goes into getting away with it than just buying the bot and turning it on thats for damn sure.

Not gonna lie i smiled a lot reading those forums. It was quite eye opening. Company like Blizzard cant seem to do shit with their bot problem other than try and take it to court but then again thats their own fault because when you only ban in waves every few years well... you get what you put in.

While apparently GGG not only have their game pretty damn tight they dont even have to do the court route or huge waves and its all pretty quiet as well. They do it apperenly on a per account basis and seem to have much better success according to those forums. Of course there are some very computer savy types who do bot POE and actually get away with it but, they are so few and far between it seems in comparison to D3 it almost doesn't matter. But the reality is NO company can completely stop ALL bots.. but from just what i read in those forums way back when im pretty confident GGG at least do what they can and keep it to a minimum. And this information comes straight from the assholes who try to get away with it.

Now RMT.... well that's a totally different story. And one i think GGG at some point is going to have to find more ways to address before it becomes a bigger problem than it already is. Unfortunately the only way D3 was able to stop this issue was disable trading which i dont think is an option for POE. I would also assume the few that do manage to get around detection for bots would also be some the same ones facilitating the RMT issues as well.

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chronsmash wrote:

Just lol next you going to tell me there are no custom API tools, and all racers that have aura bots are all played by other players, not a loot bot... Sure I wonder why if you look a handfull of the top aura bots, the accounts are newer accounts with zero gear, zero tabs, zero mtx, and it only one character on the account..... but WTF do I know

Fanboys will be fanboys.

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They sometimes let the bot run with a "bad drops" flag set on it... wasting the time of the bot's owner.

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chronsmash wrote:

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Demonoz wrote:

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lagwin1980 wrote:

GGG just ban the people using the bots, it's just a matter of time.

Actually im proud to say after a little investigation of my own a while back.. Its not a matter of time at all. In fact from what ive read its god damn near instant.

I checked those sites a couple years back when D3 was infested with Bots from demonbuddy (Much like it is again now) and it was kinda funny.. When you go to their forum for the D3 bot everyone is pretty much bragging what a joke warden is and how its basically a free for all with the occasional person posting about they got banned.. no ban wave in years ect.

POE bot forum on the other hand.. Well posts there were pretty much exactly the opposite. Everyone pretty much posting "How the fuck do you guys bot this game?" "I just got all my accounts banned almost instantly when i turned this thing on" And stuff like that with the occasional person posting to be able to bot in POE you pretty much need to go out of your way to avoid detection and even then... its a roll of the dice. Its possible but there is a lot more that goes into getting away with it than just buying the bot and turning it on thats for damn sure.

Not gonna lie i smiled a lot reading those forums. It was quite eye opening. Company like Blizzard cant seem to do shit with their bot problem other than try and take it to court but then again thats their own fault because when you only ban in waves every few years well... you get what you put in.

While apparently GGG not only have their game pretty damn tight they dont even have to do the court route or huge waves and its all pretty quiet as well. They do it apperenly on a per account basis and seem to have much better success according to those forums. Of course there are some very computer savy types who do bot POE and actually get away with it but, they are so few and far between it seems in comparison to D3 it almost doesn't matter. But the reality is NO company can completely stop ALL bots.. but from just what i read in those forums way back when im pretty confident GGG at least do what they can and keep it to a minimum. And this information comes straight from the assholes who try to get away with it.

Now RMT.... well that's a totally different story. And one i think GGG at some point is going to have to find more ways to address before it becomes a bigger problem than it already is. Unfortunately the only way D3 was able to stop this issue was disable trading which i dont think is an option for POE. I would also assume the few that do manage to get around detection for bots would also be some the same ones facilitating the RMT issues as well.

Just lol next you going to tell me there are no custom API tools, and all racers that have aura bots are all played by other players, not a loot bot... Sure I wonder why if you look a handfull of the top aura bots, the accounts are newer accounts with zero gear, zero tabs, zero mtx, and it only one character on the account..... but WTF do I know

Fanboys will be fanboys.

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AsbelFar wrote:

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Shagsbeard wrote:

They don't even always ban. They sometimes let the bot run with a "bad drops" flag set on it... wasting the time of the bot's owner.

Seriously? Man this is hilarious!

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SlippyCheeze wrote:

You can't possible know if someone is "playing bot" or not. You simply don't have access to enough information.

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VenGanZa9 wrote:

If you guys recall the early weeks of Harbinger, there was rampant price fixing by individuals and guilds, and GGG apparently was not happy about it at all.

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Arrowneous wrote:

Making the risks for a botter not worth the rewards is GGG's best incentive to stop bots.

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Demonoz wrote:

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chronsmash wrote:

Just lol next you going to tell me there are no custom API tools, and all racers that have aura bots are all played by other players, not a loot bot... Sure I wonder why if you look a handfull of the top aura bots, the accounts are newer accounts with zero gear, zero tabs, zero mtx, and it only one character on the account..... but WTF do I know

Fanboys will be fanboys.

Not one time did i say people dont do some shady shit especially when it comes to racing but as far as botting goes thats just not one of the ways people go about it... People are running Aura based characters themselves.. they benefit just as well from running around giving their buffs to partys. You can even see people stream themselves running aura based characters. But think what you want bud.. Just like you can see people have dedicated traders who do all their trading for their team to keep currency rolling in to keep them in the competition. Again they gain from the spoils as well for their involvement. Those rewards not only sell for hundreds of exalts in standard...

As far as people running those throw away accounts.. Again has Zero to do with botting and alot more to do with using shit like Macros that are against the TOS.. And yes there's a reason for this.. Its not like the reward or the race isnt worth ALOT to alot of people.. And way risk your main account when your gonna push the boundries to do whatever it takes to win something worth alot.. When you can just make a throwaway account.. Just like the custom APIs people use to gain huge advantages in trading.. All that shit is old ass news.. But again botting has nothing to do with any of that.

Again like i said never said a word about people dont do shady shit in POE.. Botting is just one of those things they actually have some what of a hold on.. Never said there isnt other areas they could improve upon in fact there are quite a few things they need to find better ways to address. Every game company especially online games have their issues.. None are without flaws. But all the above mentioned has little to do with botting and a hell of alot more to do with RMT... But go ahead and believe what you want to believe.. But it wont change the fact you are wrong.. And none of this has anything to do with being a "Fanboy" and you would be quite aware of this as well if you done a little simple research for yourself. Hell you dont even have to do research really anymore.. if you have a Facebook and like POE on there the shit will smack you right in the face with ads telling a very clear story about whats going on...

If your gonna throw around accusations as to why people are doing certain things at least know what your even talking about or the real reasons behind such things. It helps to keep you from looking foolish..