[3.5] Mjölner Untethered 3.5 UPDATE! Mjölner is back! Uberelder+Shaper done

So I've recently comeback to this game, And I wanted to give this build a go on my Standard character to see if it would be worth setting up. But I need some pointers here, because my attack/cast speed seems to be lower than yours by a pretty large amount and I can't seem to figure out why. My Leech is a bit down aswell from what I can tell, I tested it on Chimera and Phoenix and It was able to handle them pretty well, wasn't able to kill phoenix deathless but I was able to kill Chimera with 1 Portal used.

EDIT: I figured out the attack speed thing, But now im noticing my damage is about half of yours. Maybe not even that, Got any tips?

If you could look over my Pastebin and give me some pointers for when I start harbinger it would be much appreciated. https://pastebin.com/Vz5FvEf3

If you have any gearing tips aswell, I've got some extra currency in standard left over to play around with before I swap. I want to get this down pat or atleast a goal in mind when I do start Harbinger.
Last edited by Anoxxi on Sep 10, 2017, 2:01:13 AM
well depend on what u compare ur build with because some ppl use RF+ arcane surge, that boost greatly the POB dmg.

but looking at ur gear/most discharge build..... the big game changer is JEWELS, this is the main source of dmg boost for any discharge build. So u should be looking a GG 4 stats jewels to reach insane dmg.
A day w/o dealing with stupid ppl is like....Never mind. Ill tell u if it ever happens
Last edited by philophil on Sep 10, 2017, 2:52:28 AM
Thanks for the Input Philophil. I'll start looking into jewels and seeing how it affects my damage.
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SCamera wrote:
So I've got the build up and running and I finally got my shaper kill with the build:

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Overall I must say it's a real neat build and feels just as strong as the essence league cospri malice build. Otherwise the variations I've done to the build is run both purity of fire and purity of lightning as well as run warlord's mark for cwdt just because I always like the extra layer of defenses.

My other thoughts:
-This build is a real fast mapper and leveler. Everything up to and including guardians are relatively easy.
-That being said the shaper fight is hard. I found the best way to do it was to socket life leech into mjolner and having culling strike on the cwdt firestorm setup.
-Leveling with blade vortex works nice up to lvl 68 without having to change the pathing of the tree.
-The build is surprisingly tanky despite the low HP due to the perma fortify, pathfinder's nature boon node. I feel comfortable with the build at around 5.3k hp.
-Jewels make a huge difference with the build. I'd almost say it's worth slamming the 3x crit multi or the 2x multi + life jewels with how exalt prices are.

Gear:
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Passive Tree:

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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAIDAABeAZEEBwSzBUIILgj0C2EN0Q5cD6sRLREvFr8YPBhWGYoZjho4G8gc3CBuIvQkiySdJpUnLyj6KU8qCyo4KwosnC3SN0w62DwtQYdBlkQNRX5FnUyzUDBQQlBHUzVTUlVLVcZd8mHiYlpjQ2ZUZ5to8mpDavprt2wLbRlwUnyDfLt_gIKbgseDX4PMg9uExYV7hX2J04w2jZKPGpBVkyeXBpitmuCbjZu1nrehL6IArj6us69stz64k7zqvSe-isBmwzrEosWKxq7Hncjwz93QH9D1037Yvd-Y44TkUevu7Djtg-8O73rv6_Af8W3xivc9-ej-Cv8Q?accountName=SCamera&characterName=FrameDropFerrari


Only upgrades I can see getting is getting a 21/20 discharge, rolling the helm and diamond ring for better stats, and possibly getting a clean voll's devotion or getting a better implicit.


Congratulations on the kill and thanks for your feedback! i agree that lvling with bladevortex could be a better option than using a bow. i'm surprised that you used life leech vs shaper instead of a 2. dps support. the fight is a dps check after all. but if it works for you, it's fine. i am currently getting this build to lvl 100 and have to say it's a blast using a headhunter with it during mapping.
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Anoxxi wrote:
So I've recently comeback to this game, And I wanted to give this build a go on my Standard character to see if it would be worth setting up. But I need some pointers here, because my attack/cast speed seems to be lower than yours by a pretty large amount and I can't seem to figure out why. My Leech is a bit down aswell from what I can tell, I tested it on Chimera and Phoenix and It was able to handle them pretty well, wasn't able to kill phoenix deathless but I was able to kill Chimera with 1 Portal used.

EDIT: I figured out the attack speed thing, But now im noticing my damage is about half of yours. Maybe not even that, Got any tips?

If you could look over my Pastebin and give me some pointers for when I start harbinger it would be much appreciated. https://pastebin.com/Vz5FvEf3

If you have any gearing tips aswell, I've got some extra currency in standard left over to play around with before I swap. I want to get this down pat or atleast a goal in mind when I do start Harbinger.


hi, i checked out your build. it's pretty neat already. you can get a lot of dps by using jewels that have at least 2 crit multi rolls on every jewel slot. there is nothing that boosts the dmg as much as crit multi. and we can get a lot of it on jewels.
the 30% discharge helmet enchant also gives a lot of extra dps.
if you want to do guardians/shaper, make sure to get a well rolled vessel of vinktar with 80-81% inc charges used. this way you can sustain the flask.
your shield could be a bit better for more dps ;)

the dmg numbers in my PoB link are without things like rf/arcane surge, it's just the realistic numbers. if i'd equip rf+arcance surge into it, it would go up to 684.438dmg per discharge :D
Last edited by Sacr0 on Sep 10, 2017, 7:01:24 AM
Leveling this char is kind of pain in the ass, isn´t it?

Maybe i do it wrong, only 1500 life might be the problem ( maybe i chose the wrong sequence of passives to set first? )

Just died 25 times @ doedre at level 54, ouch. From act 6 on it became just painful.

Using the bow you suggest for leveling, and a tabula rasa etc.
While the dmg is quite okay for leveling, the defense is extremely clunky.

Maybe someone got a link for me how in detail to level up a pathfinder? Leveling up a duelist / slayer at least was twice as fast ( at least ).

This leveling process currently lets me think about quitting this build before even started - takes 4-5 hours each act this way
Last edited by bex_HB on Sep 10, 2017, 1:31:21 PM
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bex_HB wrote:
Leveling this char is kind of pain in the ass, isn´t it?

Maybe i do it wrong, only 1500 life might be the problem ( maybe i chose the wrong sequence of passives to set first? )

Just died 25 times @ doedre at level 54, ouch. From act 6 on it became just painful.

Using the bow you suggest for leveling, and a tabula rasa etc.
While the dmg is quite okay for leveling, the defense is extremely clunky.

Maybe someone got a link for me how in detail to level up a pathfinder? Leveling up a duelist / slayer at least was twice as fast ( at least ).

This leveling process currently lets me think about quitting this build before even started - takes 4-5 hours each act this way


something must be wrong about your setup. i lvled to lvl 70+ in around 7 hours total.
link your gear pls.
you are pathfinder. get a granite flask, a diamond flask, a decent ms flask and wise oak early on.
another suggestion on this thread was to use blade vortex for lvling.
Last edited by Sacr0 on Sep 10, 2017, 2:13:11 PM
not sure if you can just look at my profile like this to check my gear or if i have to sent a link? i couldnt find anything. i would like to know what i should change on my gear next.. its very hard for me to decide my character is named HiddenThor
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hiddenroar wrote:
not sure if you can just look at my profile like this to check my gear or if i have to sent a link? i couldnt find anything. i would like to know what i should change on my gear next.. its very hard for me to decide my character is named HiddenThor


your characters are set to private and cant be seen by other people. you should change that if you want me to have a look!
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Sacr0 wrote:
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hiddenroar wrote:
not sure if you can just look at my profile like this to check my gear or if i have to sent a link? i couldnt find anything. i would like to know what i should change on my gear next.. its very hard for me to decide my character is named HiddenThor


your characters are set to private and cant be seen by other people. you should change that if you want me to have a look!


oh sorry didnt know im new to this :D i changed it

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