3.0.0 taking away instant logout?

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AceNightfire wrote:

Bullshit. I rarely log out and I only do so when I get lag spikes, desyncs or freezes. Things I have no control over and I'm thankful for not losing characters to these kind of things thanks to the instant log out. 90% of my death were because of such things. There are already enough situations that can literally one-shot you (or kill you so fast that you can't react anyway), so just let the people have fun and let them log out if they want.

If you think you are SO hardcore, then just dont use it and die meaningless death, but dont ruin the fun for other people.

Your ability to instantly log out is the reason why "there are alreadt enough situations that can literally oneshot you".
If instant escape (logout) is removed, game could be tuned to have less "oneshots", cause they will be needed no longer to kill a bad played.

And as I said, it would probably make the game overall less interesting, less diverse, and on top of that, less accessible.

Terrible idea.

Disagree totally...

when your ISP fail or the game "freeze" or is not responding as it still happen sometimes you must be able to insta-logout or it's like in D3 : you lose your HC char for nothing (happen to me in D3 a lot : more than 10 sec logout is completely bullshit !).
used it in sc also (on poe) to not lost 10% for nothing.

anyway when you are 1 shot : you can't logout, you are dead. logout can be used when game fail but it's near always too late to do that.
it's a false problem for people who think it solve all the pbs in HC, look there's very few people who play hc in PoE even if this exist. number 1 died in HC today... mind you...

Hardcore means you can loose!

Not just from falling victim to monsters or bosses also to all possible enviorment.


The first intention of a Hardcore function into a game was that players should have a more real feedback and be able to loose their life.
Disconnects , freezes are dangerous, but you have to keep in mind if the intention in poe is the same there is no reason to protect players from that.

If you would die personaly you cant just log out and log in and everything is fine.

Thats why accept your fate!

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The_Reporter wrote:

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Kickaha wrote:

Wrong. Your ability to instant leech is the reason for all the one-shot situations. Removing logouts will not change that.

That's why both design flaws must be removed.

Agreed, both should be removed.

Instant leech may exist only as temporary buff with quite long CD, so you can use it in dire situations, but wont be able to abuse it permanently.
Same for other sort of instant heals. When "instant heal" ability is expendable (has long CD, or limited charges, like life flasks), then it can be balanced - because you cant abuse it all the time.

If you're using logout macro,it's like you have divine shrine upon you all the time,simply,you cannot die.
Just look at HC ladders,i guess these few dead people there are poor noobs which dont even know logout macros exist.

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And1111 wrote:

If you're using logout macro,it's like you have divine shrine upon you all the time,simply,you cannot die.
Just look at HC ladders,i guess these few dead people there are poor noobs which dont even know logout macros exist.

Yeah this is not true at all. People die even using auto macros that read memory that are illegal, let alone manual macros that require human reflexes.

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allbusiness wrote:

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And1111 wrote:

If you're using logout macro,it's like you have divine shrine upon you all the time,simply,you cannot die.
Just look at HC ladders,i guess these few dead people there are poor noobs which dont even know logout macros exist.

Yeah this is not true at all. People die even using auto macros that read memory that are illegal, let alone manual macros that require human reflexes.

Defending logging out as something valid is like saying that destroying the chess table if loosing is valid.
but imo HC shouldn't even exist unless there is 0 lag and FPS drops. I.e. its trully fair, so it will never be fair anyway, so fuck it.