Development Manifesto: Damage Over Time Changes - Part 1

Are there going to be any changes to the Bleed-related talents in the Gladiator Ascendancy i.e. Gratuitous Violence and Blood in the Eyes? If so could you go into any detail?
what poe needs is a buff to life builds. Or nerf to CI. If 80% builds are using poison, is safe to say that 100% are using ES
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Last edited by kjksdajk on Apr 27, 2017, 9:17:55 AM
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Commoble wrote:
TLDR:

Bleed, poison, and ignite's base damage will be calculated from the base damage of the hit that applied them, rather than the total damage of the hit that applied them (so % increased attack damage and similar things will not affect the DOT of these effects at all, and things that previously double-dipped will only single-dip (they will still affect both hit damage and DOT, but not cumulatively)). The list of damage modifier types that directly affect DOT has not changed.

To compensate, the base DOT of these effects will be doubled, and increases to DOT on the passive tree have been increased. Bleeds dealt by players also do half their total damage against stationary monsters, rather than 1/6 damage (200% more, assuming that was implemented by buffing stationary damage rather than nerfing mobile damage).

Some support gems will receive additional balance changes. Increased Burning Damage will be changed to More Burning Damage. There will also be new support gems related to DOT effects at some point.

Followup post next week will discuss interactions with monsters, mechanically describing these effects as "Ailments", interactions between DOT effects and crit, and a new keystone.


A+ changes, very fair. Was hoping the nerfs wouldn't nerf Scorching Ray and I was not disappointed. Looking forward to the beta!


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First I just want to sort of repeat what I read so I can be assured I understand it. Burning will still scale with fire and burning, but not with spell damage? If that's the case I feel like some build will become much weaker and that's prolly the goal because some builds with Caustic Arrow and Flameblast prolif were a bit crazy. That being said...

After reading this, I feel like I really want to play a burning build... The potential of burning (I've never played a poison or bleeding build) just became so extraordinary now. The potential to burn something to death and prolif it is going to be insane with this new set up. Burning does more base damage, bwhaaa? Why?

This feels very just thrown in there which I know it's not. I'm sure there is a room of guys doing advanced algebra making sure all this works out. And I know power creep is a thing. But this just empowers burning builds even more, while taking away a few builds that use to do it. So the net result is less builds, with more power. I'd rather have 800 builds that kinda work than 80 builds that monkey fuck stuff, wouldn't you?

I'm not a professional mathematician, and I'm only human so I may be reading this wrong. But if I'm not yikes at burning, bleeding, and poison builds.
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ClickerPro wrote:
... The potential of burning (I've never played a poison or bleeding build) just became so extraordinary now. The potential to burn something to death and prolif it is going to be insane with this new set up.

Yes, insane burn and prolif is something completely new isn't it? ^^ #SomeoneIsALittleLate
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Last edited by 666lol666 on Apr 27, 2017, 1:26:16 PM
Haven't ran any DOT damage since 2012's Poison Arrow...

Frankly haven't missed it, though apparently I should have!
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Seems like Best buff to RF :D burning dmg from inc to more xD
Too bad Es going to be nerfed too cya 20k es low life :(

Also if bleed and poison will be like aliments than prolif game will finally spread them!
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Last edited by Piacevole on Apr 27, 2017, 4:18:32 PM
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Psomm wrote:
Haven't ran any DOT damage since 2012's Poison Arrow...

Frankly haven't missed it, though apparently I should have!


yeah, I heard DoT is in a good spot now, so I made Blight character
I have a question to the 3 core member of GGG. If you were not the member of creator, but being one of the player of the PoE,

what league would you play?

what would be the highest level of character?

would you beat all the contents?

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