[3.14] Flame Golem 101 - Complete Guide To Golemancy, ✔️All Bosses Down, ✔️Necro, ✔️Elementalist

Hi and thanks for your detailed explanation and taking your time, to answer my questions.

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If you want to keep all your defenses but deal more DPS, here what you can do :
- Buy 21/0 Flame Golem gem. Extra level beats quality.
- Buy 21/0 Raise Spec gem. Extra level is noticable DPS boost.
- Empower 4 is also noticably boost to DPS if you have the currency
- If you want to focus just on fast clear speed, you can swap helmet for one with "Minion damage support" and "Conc Effect support" and run 4x Solar Guard Specs in it. You can also run 1x "Unending Hunger" on left or right jewel socket from Witch start to give Solar Guards big DPS boost.
- Enhance 3 boost Elemental Weakness power with reasonable price. 4 is optimal
- Quality on elemental Weakness raises the DSP. 20/20 is nice DPS boost.

I'm looking for new gems, but I'm a cheap bastard and always sit on my money, until I think I made a good deal. Gems should be me priority No.1 and except Empower 4 they are all affordable.

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You are playing the default variant, which is meant for introduction to summoner class and to be extremely safe to play with good damage. If you really want to join the DPS race and even beat the physical minion builds, I can recommend you try the "Pledge of Hands" -Elementalist. Switching Ascendancy is very cheap as skill-trees are very close to each other and you can try the DPS with 5 or 6-link pledge. If you like DPS you can swap rest of the gear as you see fit.

I also thought about this Elementalist variant. Respec wouldn't be a great problem, but I need complete new gear. Checked already the prices and a little bit more of currency is needed. During a working week I don't have the time to farm constantly and my drop luck this season is really garbage, compared to the last season.

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There is also Victarios Charity based variant of the Necromancer which sacrifices lot of defense for about 1.5x DPS multiplier. It's somewhere between of the variants, but I would go straight for Pledge if you really want to deal tons of DPS with low cost and decent defenses.

I've dropped the Victarios Charity, because I needed a little bit more toughness against Shaper Guardians.

Maybe I hit some kind of jackpot :D - 3 slum lords
Is it worth speccing out of the left minion wheel to get these 160% and speccing to the right upper one, to have 240%?


https://imgur.com/a/Xf1y2bQ

thx

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mika2salo wrote:

If you want to keep all your defenses but deal more DPS, here what you can do :
- Buy 21/0 Flame Golem gem. Extra level beats quality.

I don't get how a 21/0 Flame Golem gem is better than a 20/20 one...

The gem progression tables show damage to be 20% for both level 20 and 21 gems, and only increases to 21% at level 23.

20% quality adds 20% damage, so what am I missing?

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daniboy wrote:

Hi and thanks for your detailed explanation and taking your time, to answer my questions.

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If you want to keep all your defenses but deal more DPS, here what you can do :
- Buy 21/0 Flame Golem gem. Extra level beats quality.
- Buy 21/0 Raise Spec gem. Extra level is noticable DPS boost.
- Empower 4 is also noticably boost to DPS if you have the currency
- If you want to focus just on fast clear speed, you can swap helmet for one with "Minion damage support" and "Conc Effect support" and run 4x Solar Guard Specs in it. You can also run 1x "Unending Hunger" on left or right jewel socket from Witch start to give Solar Guards big DPS boost.
- Enhance 3 boost Elemental Weakness power with reasonable price. 4 is optimal
- Quality on elemental Weakness raises the DSP. 20/20 is nice DPS boost.

I'm looking for new gems, but I'm a cheap bastard and always sit on my money, until I think I made a good deal. Gems should be me priority No.1 and except Empower 4 they are all affordable.

"

You are playing the default variant, which is meant for introduction to summoner class and to be extremely safe to play with good damage. If you really want to join the DPS race and even beat the physical minion builds, I can recommend you try the "Pledge of Hands" -Elementalist. Switching Ascendancy is very cheap as skill-trees are very close to each other and you can try the DPS with 5 or 6-link pledge. If you like DPS you can swap rest of the gear as you see fit.

I also thought about this Elementalist variant. Respec wouldn't be a great problem, but I need complete new gear. Checked already the prices and a little bit more of currency is needed. During a working week I don't have the time to farm constantly and my drop luck this season is really garbage, compared to the last season.

"

There is also Victarios Charity based variant of the Necromancer which sacrifices lot of defense for about 1.5x DPS multiplier. It's somewhere between of the variants, but I would go straight for Pledge if you really want to deal tons of DPS with low cost and decent defenses.

I've dropped the Victarios Charity, because I needed a little bit more toughness against Shaper Guardians.

Hello :)

You can post again if you feel that after the updates the damage is still lacking. If you become interested in the Elementalist, you can swap when you have enough currency later. Ascendancy swap and Pledge + Primordial Chain are the core items needed for that setup. Helmet, armor and boots can be really anything with Energy Shield. Armors doesnt even have to be 6 link.

I wish your luck turns and you get some nice drops this leaguea also ;)

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I don't get how a 21/0 Flame Golem gem is better than a 20/20 one...

The gem progression tables show damage to be 20% for both level 20 and 21 gems, and only increases to 21% at level 23.

20% quality adds 20% damage, so what am I missing?

Hey :)

You are actually watching the stats that Golem level has on PLAYER.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Flame_Golem

If you check the lower part of the page, you find real thats for Golems level increase. Each level increases Golems damage and hp by roughly 10%.

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Maybe I hit some kind of jackpot :D - 3 slum lords
Is it worth speccing out of the left minion wheel to get these 160% and speccing to the right upper one, to have 240%?


https://imgur.com/a/Xf1y2bQ

thx

Hi :)

Gz on sweet roll!

I would maybe even consider anointing the 3rd Slum Lords original node. The anointement would point to the exact location of the original node, and once you transfer it with Hubris, you are now pointing at the Slum Lord and don't have to waste points on the way there.

Hello i'm currently playing this build, (first of all sorry if i fail english grammar, no native)

I have only a question, its about the Harmony jewels:

X% increased Golem Damage for each Type of Golem you have Summoned

Actually i can summon 5 golems, is better 5 fire golems or 4+1 (stone golem for example) for boost damage of the jewels? Another golem suggestion meanwhile im leveling up Animated Guardian?

What's best double corruption on Skin of The Loyal for us? Also is there some resource on possible corruptions, cause i can't find anything.

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mika2salo wrote:

Hi :)

Gz on sweet roll!

I would maybe even consider anointing the 3rd Slum Lords original node. The anointement would point to the exact location of the original node, and once you transfer it with Hubris, you are now pointing at the Slum Lord and don't have to waste points on the way there.

Hi, thx for answer - I played a little bit around with divine orbs - now I think its even better, because I dont loose anything from the left minion wheel.
2 slums with not many points to use

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Unista wrote:

What's best double corruption on Skin of The Loyal for us?

In terms of damage, there's only +1 gem lvl really... +2 lvl to Projectile Gems or +2 lvl to Duration Gems would improve LMP/GMP or Feeding Frenzy Support by 1% respectively.

Anything else is more or less random defensive enhancements, % max life, less damage taken, etc. So there is no "best" really.

Of course, 6w is also a nice double corruption if you want to use "Tabula of the Loyal" with multiple builds. ;)

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Unista wrote:

Also is there some resource on possible corruptions, cause i can't find anything.

Wiki is your friend:

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Corrupted

The old Wiki used to be better because you could easily sort the columns ascending/descending, now you will have to scroll down the body armour column... or maybe I'm just too daft to figure it out. ;)

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TheSonricSx wrote:

Hello i'm currently playing this build, (first of all sorry if i fail english grammar, no native)

I have only a question, its about the Harmony jewels:

X% increased Golem Damage for each Type of Golem you have Summoned

Actually i can summon 5 golems, is better 5 fire golems or 4+1 (stone golem for example) for boost damage of the jewels? Another golem suggestion meanwhile im leveling up Animated Guardian?

Hello :)

I would still run 5x Flame Golems as their main function is to clear trash mobs as fast as possible. 4+1 would increase their damage, but also means less projectiles in the air clearing big area.

Tukohama Vanguards are used to deal most boss damage. However now with 5th Golem form the Golem Commander you can run extra Golem and still have 4x ranged Golems, which is esential to clear-speed. You can test both configs and see which feels better.

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What's best double corruption on Skin of The Loyal for us? Also is there some resource on possible corruptions, cause i can't find anything.

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In terms of damage, there's only +1 gem lvl really... +2 lvl to Projectile Gems or +2 lvl to Duration Gems would improve LMP/GMP or Feeding Frenzy Support by 1% respectively.

Anything else is more or less random defensive enhancements, % max life, less damage taken, etc. So there is no "best" really.

Of course, 6w is also a nice double corruption if you want to use "Tabula of the Loyal" with multiple builds. ;)

Wiki is your friend:

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Corrupted

The old Wiki used to be better because you could easily sort the columns ascending/descending, now you will have to scroll down the body armour column... or maybe I'm just too daft to figure it out. ;)

Hey :)

Yep, +1 is best available and followed by +2 to projectile gems. The DPS increase from secondary corrupt is however pretty small.

I think that you can press the icon of the item type in the wiki page? It puts the wanted items corrupts first on top, and on next click on the bottom of the list.

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Hi, thx for answer - I played a little bit around with divine orbs - now I think its even better, because I dont loose anything from the left minion wheel.
2 slums with not many points to use

Hi :)

This roll looks very good also! In theory you save one node when linking to the left jewel socket as its close, but now you can take left side nodes if you want to.

Ideal would propably be left side socket with 2-3x Slum lords on 3x node from the tree.

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mika2salo wrote:

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I don't get how a 21/0 Flame Golem gem is better than a 20/20 one...

The gem progression tables show damage to be 20% for both level 20 and 21 gems, and only increases to 21% at level 23.

20% quality adds 20% damage, so what am I missing?

Hey :)

You are actually watching the stats that Golem level has on PLAYER.

https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Summon_Flame_Golem

If you check the lower part of the page, you find real thats for Golems level increase. Each level increases Golems damage and hp by roughly 10%.

Ok I see now. But as you say, each golem level is roughly 10% damage, but 20% quality is 20% damage, so still a 20/20 looks better than a 21/0?

A 21/0 has 10% more damage than a 20/0, but a 20/20 has 20% more than a 20/0...

So I still don't get what I am missing?