PoE.trade and Chris Wilson consipracy theory.

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RandallPOE wrote:

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_Tiem wrote:

Pretty sure this game has global account loot tables so while I don't think they can go in and give you a Shavs outright, they can increase the drop rate of specific BaseTypes. The clues are in how the structure of the items are laid out within the game itself. So they could go in and set a global 200% increase to currency or armour or maps for example. They may actually be able to do it on class too but now you're really having to bend the code but still pretty doable. If anyone has played on D3's PTR before, you can see what I'm talking about. Blizzard sets the drop rates of uniques to like +5000% so players can test the new changes on gear without having to actually grind for them.

That drop rate increase on the D3 PTR is quite obviously server wide not by account.

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Yeah because it's so hard to bind that to a specific account. No need to insults either. Merry xmas. [Removed by Support].

it's not a conspiracy theory, it's pretty locigal that ggg probably has some contracts with the biggest contributor to their game in case he ceases his service. unlikely that xyz has to give a percentage of his ad revenue though.

but then, on the other hand, the code for an ingame auction house is probably there as they implemented it for the china version but don't deploy it for the main realm as it would make trading too easy and effective.

i doubt that the auction house could be adapted to work like their current system where the non existing need to sell for the advertised price and fake sellers prevent buyout prices and non-offline trading makes only a small portion of the potential goods available, you can hardly achieve that with a ingame system. players wouldn't understand that they have to full clear the coast to be able to trade an item if you know what i mean.

trading is perfect as it is now, the only negative point is the potential risk to get malware by visiting poe.trade.

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vio wrote:

trading is perfect as it is now

we must be playing different games

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vio wrote:

trading is perfect as it is now, the only negative point is the potential risk to get malware by visiting poe.trade.

Well that's quite true, problem can happen with any third party tools and possible fork of them related to trading.
That's larger than that. Risk is also to see more alt account on http://currency.poe.trade/ that won't sell anything if GGG keep doing nothing about that.
I personaly spotted three in BSC i send them messages often since two weeks and never here not even playing or anything you will never get any answers from them.
We both know why they are there and GGG can't say much about those guys since they basicly allow them to have this kind of behaviors.

Following a post made by another user few weeks ago that got disgusted by the number of google result for dark side shit ( better to do a reference to star wars than saying it with my own words ) i think you can imagine where these currencies made from massive market manipulation are ending OFTEN. I'm not putting all players in the same box, economy is also handled by totaly legit players that are doing that for fun at all that's what they enjoy in the game i have nothing against that.

I let you check. You will be probably disgusted to notice the number of results aswell. I saw enough game falling due to that, i don't want to see that happening with PoE. This is even weird they don't take heavier measure to fight that to be honest. Does all gaming company just gave up on that ?

No trading isn't perfect. Or yeah it is for the few peoples Chris don't want to pissed off by doing any changes. What about the rest of userbase ? Don't you think almost 5k forum / reddit threads asking for trading improvements are enough to show there is a problem ? You possibly know my point about trading. I don't want an AH. But i've some concerns and worries about actual way trading is implemented, and also have NO IDEA about what is the real GGG stance about it.

At some points it's so ignored that i feel they don't want trading in PoE at all. Why would they ruin the game reputation slowly by keeping it ? The day you will hear one player saying he don't want to come to play PoE because he heard about trading beeing bad it will be already too late. It's already the case with performances issues. Lot of players don't even want to give a try to the game the reputation is already there. I don't care that they don't come to play at all, but i care about the damage reputation problems like that can have on the long run for the game. And of course not seeing my experience beeing worse and worse with trading days after days that's not a surprise isn't it ? :)

Soo to GGG. Keep poe.trade or any others tools you want i don't care. But do it in the right way. Not the actual one. Some limits has to be setup ^^ a good start would be to let user choose if they allow their items beeing possible to detect with livesearch.

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Heli0nix wrote:

Risk is also to see more alt account on http://currency.poe.trade/ that won't sell anything if GGG keep doing nothing about that.

i don't see fake sellers as a real problem when their exitence is known to most players.
sure they're annoying when one tries to find the real exchange price but they also prevent people to underbid each other by just taking the lowest price.

i think if they didn't exist already, ggg should have somehow implemented tech that results in the same effect.

question is: why is a flexible exchange rate a good idea. fixed exchange rates are so much clearer for the player.

answer: there is no such thing as a fixed exchange rate. it just varies partly on what is needed ingame at various stages of the temp league but a big part is mostly due to influential parties manipulating the price. it's that way in every online game with a currency market, poe is no different.

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Heli0nix wrote:

the number of google result for dark side shit

if i lookup old posts by myself or they got necroed by someone, i'm surprised on how many accounts they banned.

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Heli0nix wrote:

Don't you think almost 5k forum / reddit threads asking for trading improvements are enough to show there is a problem

no.

to me it shows that alot of the reddit and forum's active user base sees themselves massively profiting from faster trading.

which is exactly the reason why trade isn't improved: this "creme de la creme" of the user base getting even richer by trading means endgame items will get even more expensive and unreachable for the "middle class" of players.

when you see nolifers complaining 3 weeks into a league that they reached their goal of fully gearing their endgame chars, better trading would even shorten this cycle. not desirable, really.

As far as conspiracy theories go, this is a good one.
I mean it's a proper, tin-foil hat theory.

Kudos on maintaining the initial assumptions people have when they hear the phrase "conspiracy theory".

Nice conspiracy. But why bother dealing with poe.trade for some tiny ad revenue, when Chris Wilson could just console spawn piles of exalts and sell them on RMT sites?

What leverage would GGG have on poe.trade? "give us most of your ad revenue, or we will spend months developing our own trade tools that will put you out of business". - lol :)

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It's poe.trade who has more leverage on GGG, actually. He's saving them lots of money & time. Imagine if poe.trade was down for a week, the playerbase would go insane.

Agree with above.
Also all who tgink this game is p2w are spoiled entitled brats.

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morbo wrote:

Nice conspiracy. But why bother dealing with poe.trade for some tiny ad revenue, when Chris Wilson could just console spawn piles of exalts and sell them on RMT sites?

What leverage would GGG have on poe.trade? "give us most of your ad revenue, or we will spend months developing our own trade tools that will put you out of business". - lol :)

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It's poe.trade who has more leverage on GGG, actually. He's saving them lots of money & time. Imagine if poe.trade was down for a week, the playerbase would go insane.

Just having the API crash for 24 hours earlier this league was fucked.

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morbo wrote:

Nice conspiracy. But why bother dealing with poe.trade for some tiny ad revenue, when Chris Wilson could just console spawn piles of exalts and sell them on RMT sites?

That would only work on the immediate short run before the supply outmet the demand and the RMT guys would just stop buying them because they'd have more than they could sell.

But I mean maybe he does that already... the plot thickens <_<