"Scamming"

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timothysongco wrote:
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You have to do it at the end that's basically the rule well self made rules by the community hence why the guy got so offended.

That's pretty much it next do it - Do it AFTER The message.

If it looks like it etc it's technically your fault.


I am fairly new to the game I currently have 450 to 500 hrs of gameplay thru steam, and I am fairly sure there are no rules in-terms of trading ive never seen one or never heard of one. I also have tried doing that leaving the offer at the end, the seller(s) also gets offended when i show up in their H.O with the amount of my offer without em reading the PM carefully.

I guess the lesson of this discussion is READ PROPERLY IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE THE OFFER IS WRITTEN whether its in front middle or at the end READ CAREFULLY otherwise its not the buyers fault(I am fairly sure every PoE player can read).

And don't accuse someone of something you clearly aren't sure if thats what they're trying to do.



@_SomePlayer Hi, I would like to buy your Soul Cowl Royal Burgonet listed for 10 chaos in Breach --- Will you take 8c for it?


See how easy that is? Just paste the auto message and type your offer at the end. Changing the original message is very rude and will either get you ignored or called a scammer.

It is not up to you to decide how other people will react to your message. That is the lesson for you to learn.
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timothysongco wrote:
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You have to do it at the end that's basically the rule well self made rules by the community hence why the guy got so offended.

That's pretty much it next do it - Do it AFTER The message.

If it looks like it etc it's technically your fault.


I am fairly new to the game I currently have 450 to 500 hrs of gameplay thru steam, and I am fairly sure there are no rules in-terms of trading ive never seen one or never heard of one. I also have tried doing that leaving the offer at the end, the seller(s) also gets offended when i show up in their H.O with the amount of my offer without em reading the PM carefully.

I guess the lesson of this discussion is READ PROPERLY IT DOESNT MATTER WHERE THE OFFER IS WRITTEN whether its in front middle or at the end READ CAREFULLY otherwise its not the buyers fault(I am fairly sure every PoE player can read).

And don't accuse someone of something you clearly aren't sure if thats what they're trying to do.


No, there are no real rules.
You are doing something unethical by modifying the middle of the message.
If you made it clear, like putting the real price and your asking price, there would be no confusion.

But since you are knowingly being unclear about this, the seller can only conclude that you are trying to take advantage of him/her. It makes perfect sense for them to consider you a scammer and a dick in general.
I would think the same way about you if you sent such a message, since you are purposely being unclear about this.
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No, there are no real rules.
You are doing something unethical by modifying the middle of the message.
If you made it clear, like putting the real price and your asking price, there would be no confusion.

But since you are knowingly being unclear about this, the seller can only conclude that you are trying to take advantage of him/her. It makes perfect sense for them to consider you a scammer and a dick in general.
I would think the same way about you if you sent such a message, since you are purposely being unclear about this.

I am not quiet sure how unclear is it by removing "Listed for" is, seriously it isn't that hard to read and understand words. Hell if you can't understand simple sentences like that well you or that person probably needs a translator.

Not to mention people who are trying to buy my stuff pm's me the same way I pm-ed this guy, and I dont find it inappropriate or rude in anyway (oh yah I forgot cause I can read).
Last edited by ReallyFatCat#6532 on Dec 24, 2016, 6:38:33 PM
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timothysongco wrote:
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No, there are no real rules.
You are doing something unethical by modifying the middle of the message.
If you made it clear, like putting the real price and your asking price, there would be no confusion.

But since you are knowingly being unclear about this, the seller can only conclude that you are trying to take advantage of him/her. It makes perfect sense for them to consider you a scammer and a dick in general.
I would think the same way about you if you sent such a message, since you are purposely being unclear about this.

I am not quiet sure how unclear is it by removing "Listed for" is, seriously it isn't that hard to read and understand words. Hell if you can't understand simple sentences like that well you or that person probably needs a translator.

Not to mention people who are trying to buy my stuff pm's me the same way I pm-ed this guy, and I dont find it inappropriate or rude in anyway (oh yah I forgot cause I can read).


If you dont get it, than you will suffer accordingly.
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If you dont get it, than you will suffer accordingly.


I probably won't and will never suffer, he's the first person who got triggered by my offer.
Lol you're going to more people triggered just PUT IT AFTER THE MESSAGE It's NOT that hard.
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timothysongco wrote:
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No, there are no real rules.
You are doing something unethical by modifying the middle of the message.
If you made it clear, like putting the real price and your asking price, there would be no confusion.

But since you are knowingly being unclear about this, the seller can only conclude that you are trying to take advantage of him/her. It makes perfect sense for them to consider you a scammer and a dick in general.
I would think the same way about you if you sent such a message, since you are purposely being unclear about this.

I am not quiet sure how unclear is it by removing "Listed for" is, seriously it isn't that hard to read and understand words. Hell if you can't understand simple sentences like that well you or that person probably needs a translator.

Not to mention people who are trying to buy my stuff pm's me the same way I pm-ed this guy, and I dont find it inappropriate or rude in anyway (oh yah I forgot cause I can read).


Yes, it is inappropriate and rude. I am unsure how you cannot see it, but I guess that is just you.
This is like saying, you went into a shop (seller), and you change their tag price with your own marker. You call this your "offer".

Not much more is said about this. I guess you like being an unpleasant person.
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Yes, it is inappropriate and rude. I am unsure how you cannot see it, but I guess that is just you.
This is like saying, you went into a shop (seller), and you change their tag price with your own marker. You call this your "offer".

Not much more is said about this. I guess you like being an unpleasant person.


people have different perspective on things, and that's a pretty bad scenario comparing virtual trading to real life trading.
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Lol you're going to more people triggered just PUT IT AFTER THE MESSAGE It's NOT that hard.


Yeah I might to avoid things, Cheers.
If you are doing hundreds of trades per day that mean you have premium stash tabs - name them accordingly and you wont get surprised - if somebody doesn't have premium stash tabs then he surely remember ALL PRICES of items that he is selling. For me item flippers are the cancer of the game and if you can't read thats not our problem.
Last edited by Przemek1983#1175 on Dec 24, 2016, 7:40:32 PM

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