Offense is too good of a defense
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" SRS, Essence Drain, Caustic Arrow, any trap/mine build, various summoners and probably others. | |
" It would kill off builds like mine though :( Dys an sohm
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" Ack.. :/ On the other hand, you wanted to steal my pets so maybe you deserve it..? ;) | |
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It's not so much that offense is great defensively, it's that
1. Unless damage is avoidable (therefore: piloting skill is a factor in avoiding damage), defense in mandatory up to a certain point. So everybody gets to that point; methods used may differ, but the amount remains constant. It's not build diversity if everyone does it. 2. Once you're not dying anymore, further investment in defenses is a waste of resources, because you could be investing in clearspeed instead to get loot and XP faster. 3. Therefore, either defense is mandatory, or defense is useless. None of this is new. The only way out of this trap to design for piloting skill using careful and deliberate telegraphing design in enemy attacks. Essentially, if you have the APM of the best Korean StarCraft player ever, the game should never force defense and you just manually dodge everything with your elite mouse skills. On the other hand, if your piloting skill falls more in the normal range, some damage is beyond your capability to avoid, so defensive investment is required. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Oct 7, 2016, 1:34:36 PM
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" No, its not the only way. You just need someone with basic balancing skills and finally balance the horrible mess POE is. Life steal SUCKS! It's a one way street into unbalance. Why? Because it creates a threshold. Every mob that cannot out damage your life steal, effectively heals u. And the result is what we see in POE. Nobody care about to much aggro, nobody cares about any monsters except the ones that oneshot you. That's the threshold. Now, let me draw a picture of a balanced game: Defenses work and life steal is at a minimum. Now you care about every fucking mob that attacks u. Even the white ones will, in great numbers, be dangerous to you. But! on the other hand there are no one shots necessary to kill players. Mobs can simply damage them and still kill them if players aren't careful. You can try that mechanic! Even in POE. Take a char and remove any life leach,gain on hit, regen etc. Now remove a lot of your own damage. E.g. take a shitty weapon. Now move a few levels back so that you don't get one shot. E.g I moved back from merciless Act2 to Cruel Act3. Its a bit tricky to find the right spot, but when you find it the gameplay is really amazing. You start to care about white mobs and the number of white mobs. You still kill them fast but in the process they damage you and you have to take actions because u cant just leech it back by killing them. You retreat or evade, it is just so much more fun. "This is a Buff" ------------------------------- There is an old almost forgotten prophecy, that hell will freeze over. But we just recently discovered the true cause of this unlikely event: By the time GGG manage to balance their game. Last edited by restinpieces0815#2549 on Oct 7, 2016, 3:55:07 PM
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"The cornerstone of my idea regarding telegraphing is: investing in defense implies lost opportunities to invest in offense, and vice versa. This is clearly not true with life leech, which makes it problematic. I don't think this makes anything I said wrong. Leech is, if not outright bad design, then at least dangerous design - the type which will break a game's balance if given the slightest opportunity. When Stephen Colbert was killed by HYDRA's Project Insight in 2014, the comedy world lost a hero. Since his life model decoy isn't up to the task, please do not mistake my performance as political discussion. I'm just doing what Steve would have wanted. Last edited by ScrotieMcB#2697 on Oct 7, 2016, 4:38:44 PM
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" I think we agree on this. I just think telegraphing is a band aid to the real problem which is all sorts of life steal. "This is a Buff"
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