[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

OP and several others show that they are using anti-Poison flasks. Aren't we immune to Poison (Chaos DOT) as CI players?

yes we are

As Pipendrusu wrote I think 4L helmet build is way better than 5L-chest one.
More damage (1,30² (ddip) = 1,69 more for the burning part (ie main one) of our dmg instead of 1,44 more (@Pipendrusu : which is more anyway so still interesting)+ u keep ur crit rate = means more ignite chance if needed) and less mana cost at the price of a little less QoL stats on helm (30% more ele dmg essence mod is a suffix, so u can get 3 ES prefixes). But i guess u were lucky to get that helmet for such a low price :)

What's more it allows u to put ur orb of storms on ur 5L chest so that it can trigger 3 curses instaed of 2 => no blasphemy needed.

Only 6L can compete ... maybe


I'm interested in ur opinion regarding ascendency points : my golems are always dying too. How do u guys manage to fix it ? guess i'm gonna try mastermind of discord (should not be ddipping but still more efficient than a dead golem^^)

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pipendrusu wrote:

Yay just noticed that this little baby (costs 5 ex on std, 20c on legacy) allows us to drop controlled destruction and get 4-link shaper disabler:

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In comparision with Controlled Destruction, 44% more spell dmg vs 30% more elemental damage, helm wins (cause double-dips). Also, we already have 110%x10 stacks more spell dmg so 44% is like nothing.

Also, we get only 10 mana cost on 4-link setup, allowing us to get rid of mana issues.

In addition, do not forget to remove stupid golems (liedge), which give us only about 80% incressed dmg, and take mastermind of discord to get 25% fire penetration (seems also double-dips) which is similar to mini-firepen-gem ("more" multiplier again), working well with elemental equilibrium. Also golems always die in shaper room fast, and mastermind works better in any way.

The essence helmet is a good option. The issue is the price. Getting a good ES and resist roll can be more expensive than a decent 6-link chest. Besides, you can't have an efficient the ultimate move setup on a 4-link. And you can't upgrade FB to a 6-link setup.

Your calculation regarding CD was wrong. 44% more spell dmg IS 44% more final dmg no matter how much stack the FB is.

In addition, the fire penertration it is not double dipping. People tend to overestimate this node. You need do some calculation to see the effectiveness of this node. The comparison is discussed in the Q&A session.

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Well I am a bit disappointed now.
Level 85 11.3k ES and roughly 4k damage with CE, I clear maps and bosses without problems till T13 as for now, BUT... I still die in breaches. Overwhelmed.
I use decoy of course and play light FB on trash mobs, not enough apparently. Are you constantly moving in breach or do you stay in a corner and kill everything around ?
Do many people have problems too in breaches with build ?
Thank you for advices, its a pity I cant play breaches, as loot is so good there.

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Scipion75 wrote:

Well I am a bit disappointed now.
Level 85 11.3k ES and roughly 4k damage with CE, I clear maps and bosses without problems till T13 as for now, BUT... I still die in breaches. Overwhelmed.
I use decoy of course and play light FB on trash mobs, not enough apparently. Are you constantly moving in breach or do you stay in a corner and kill everything around ?
Do many people have problems too in breaches with build ?
Thank you for advices, its a pity I cant play breaches, as loot is so good there.

Do NOT use CE for mapping. Use Increased AOE instead unless you are doing Shaper/Guardians. The proliferation should clear Breaches easily. And don't forget to set up the TC-Blasphemy.

Yes thank you, but would you have any tactical advice for breaches clearing, especially the crowded ones. Do you stay in a corner, do you constantly move, ... ?
I am a bit disoriented here, I have may be bad habits, last build I played was afk one. Much less damage than this one, but all I had to do in breach was standing in center, and wait for attacks to kill everything by damage reflection.

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Scipion75 wrote:

Yes thank you, but would you have any tactical advice for breaches clearing, especially the crowded ones. Do you stay in a corner, do you constantly move, ... ?
I am a bit disoriented here, I have may be bad habits, last build I played was afk one. Much less damage than this one, but all I had to do in breach was standing in center, and wait for attacks to kill everything by damage reflection.

I run yellow maps breaches up to 12 with pretty mediocre gear. 2.5k fb dmg with 5l,inc aoe. I screwed up ascendency with -reflect and golems but still,breaches are easier then normal mapping. U just pop a decoy to start with,south west corner. Then OOS, click the breaches. Start Vaal Disc. 1x 10stack fbv everything dies. tthen all you do is full stack fb in the corner your gonna move too. So like 7hour.. Then you go 11h . then 2hour. Full stack works good. Also when the breaches start your vaal disc keeps you alive. the second full stack FB you spam usually recharge your vaal disc. So feel free to use again. and then again. Only use OoS for rare. Dont bother with decoy once the breaches is up,its a waste of time. Never ever had trouble. I find em rather boring to be honest. Can even rape unique boss in breaches in a matter of second. Specially cause they spawn with lots of shit so the prolif stack and stack and makes it pretty easy.

On a side note,i had a question regarding atziri/guardians/shaper


At what kind of dps should i feel safe enough to attempt those?
Can this thing do atziri or the clone phase mirror will insta rip us? Specially playing hardcore :D.