[2.6/3.1] Shaper down on budget 5-link - The Debuffing Pizza (Tri-Curse CI Elementalist Flameblast)

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Scipion75 wrote:
Thank you. I'll try Stibnite too.
Just wanted to tell you that my golems (fire and lightning) have elemental immunity, and they still die in breaches, very fast ...


I checked your char. You have barely any ES in your gear. I'm wondering how you are surviving at all. Replace Tabula with 5-link 500 es chest (~10c), get 350 es shield (1c), 300 es helmet (3c) and better boots and gloves. Then respec into CI.

I linked both golems to my Cast When Damage Taken setup so they get constantly resummoned. When your killing potential grows, they rarely die since you kill everything before they can do anything. You can check my char from breach league: FlamoEksplodo.
Thanks for this awesome guide. I really like the build.

I can run any level maps without issues. But when it comes to killing bosses I have a hard time sometimes.
Sometimes the boss (i.e. a map with two bosses) one of the bosses goes down after the 10 stack in 2-3 sec and the other takes multiple casts. I do not understand where the difference comes from.

I usually cast Orb of Storms, wait for the EE to trigger and then apply the 10 stack pizza.

Could anyone please explain to me, how to properly kill bosses with this build? Thanks a lot.

Second question: Argus is kind of hard since he cannot be ignited right? Does the conflux has anything to do with it?

P.S.: I don't have Pendulum yet so it shouldn't be an issue related to that.
Last edited by 0dinsson#6522 on Apr 13, 2017, 8:37:36 AM
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Deadbringer wrote:
So i took the paragons of calamity cause i lvled using another build which would make me rip from reflect. Playing hardcore .. Is the paragons of calamity useful at all on this build? Say i dont use it,is there a possible,minimal chance i 1 hit myself on a full 10stack flameblast vs breaches?

If you are not in HC and want extra safety, you don't need Calamity. It's hard to oneshot yourself with 11k ES even without Calamity.
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Wermine wrote:
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Scipion75 wrote:
Thank you. I'll try Stibnite too.
Just wanted to tell you that my golems (fire and lightning) have elemental immunity, and they still die in breaches, very fast ...


I checked your char. You have barely any ES in your gear. I'm wondering how you are surviving at all. Replace Tabula with 5-link 500 es chest (~10c), get 350 es shield (1c), 300 es helmet (3c) and better boots and gloves. Then respec into CI.

I linked both golems to my Cast When Damage Taken setup so they get constantly resummoned. When your killing potential grows, they rarely die since you kill everything before they can do anything. You can check my char from breach league: FlamoEksplodo.


Thank you for your time and advices.
Its done I am CI and its much better now.

Btw, I noticed you dont use Doryani Scepter ?
Last edited by Scipion75#1389 on Apr 13, 2017, 2:01:57 PM
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Scipion75 wrote:
Thank you for your time and advices.
Its done I am CI and its much better now.

Btw, I noticed you dont use Doryani Scepter ?


Thanks. You still have some life nodes, respec those out and take Essence Surge cluster (northwest from CI cluster). Grind to level 79 asap and get Crystal Belt. Get those better boots and gloves. Are you having problems with stuns? If so, get Eye of Chayula amulet. How about mana issues (you might after getting new wand)? You want Elreon ring with -7 or -8 to mana costs. You can even replace Doedre's Damning. As said before, enemies far away will have Flammability and Elemental Weakness, enemies closer will have one of those replaced with Temporal Chains.

Doryani's Catalyst has 132% damage, 10% cast speed, 40% crit chance. My rare sceptre has 62% damage and 66% non-double-dipping-damage (tota 128%), 17% cast speed, 5-61 lightning damage to spells, 34% crit and had a free slot for +41 mana craft. That sceptre was quite cheap and very comparable to Doryani's. So it doesn't matter that much which one you get (Doryani's or very good rare), Doryani's doesn't offer anything unique to the build, just raw stats (albeit very good raw stats). You can get Doryani's for about 5c, if you wait for a good deal with live search, go for it. But I did use your current wand for a long time. It makes the build safer with huge ES replenish and takes care of mana problems while clearing trash (but not bosses). It doesn't have much damage, though.
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Wermine wrote:
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Scipion75 wrote:
Thank you for your time and advices.
Its done I am CI and its much better now.

Btw, I noticed you dont use Doryani Scepter ?


Thanks. You still have some life nodes, respec those out and take Essence Surge cluster (northwest from CI cluster). Grind to level 79 asap and get Crystal Belt. Get those better boots and gloves. Are you having problems with stuns? If so, get Eye of Chayula amulet. How about mana issues (you might after getting new wand)? You want Elreon ring with -7 or -8 to mana costs. You can even replace Doedre's Damning. As said before, enemies far away will have Flammability and Elemental Weakness, enemies closer will have one of those replaced with Temporal Chains.

Doryani's Catalyst has 132% damage, 10% cast speed, 40% crit chance. My rare sceptre has 62% damage and 66% non-double-dipping-damage (tota 128%), 17% cast speed, 5-61 lightning damage to spells, 34% crit and had a free slot for +41 mana craft. That sceptre was quite cheap and very comparable to Doryani's. So it doesn't matter that much which one you get (Doryani's or very good rare), Doryani's doesn't offer anything unique to the build, just raw stats (albeit very good raw stats). You can get Doryani's for about 5c, if you wait for a good deal with live search, go for it. But I did use your current wand for a long time. It makes the build safer with huge ES replenish and takes care of mana problems while clearing trash (but not bosses). It doesn't have much damage, though.


Thank you !
I will take essenge surge in the next 3 levels.
No stun problem as for now, I have this 50% avoid stun on boots. I will keep them for the moment and will get better gloves. Crystal belt too as soon as I reach 79.
As for mana, I just equipped Doryani Catalyst, I will test it and tune rings if needed.

I noticed 2 main diffrences between this build tree (recommended agility version) and the one you are using.
You activated Vaal Pact and Ghost Reaver. You think they are worth it (I read the topic in build Q/A) ?
Last edited by Scipion75#1389 on Apr 13, 2017, 4:18:03 PM
Another one of those, please gear check me and lmk what would you guys do to tune up.

Im not sure whats my real dps but my tooltip only shows 2k.

My profile is public and the char name is Sun_Wave

gears
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close to 11k es. Im considering buying a 600- 6link chest to get faster cast ( for general mapping purpose ,faster )

Im not sure if my jewel could get much better,probably,at a cost :). Still misisng energy from within. still got an extra jewel slot unused.

What i wanted is not more ES but probably more dmg or cast speed.

tree
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMCAA18ES8RUBM1FdcW8xekGF0YahslHNwdTx3ZIbAi9CY8J6ko-ilPKgsrCiy_LpQvnTLRNPc1uTwFPO89X0NURUdGUkmxS65Ms1BCUlNTNVZIVmNXyVgHXGtd8mjya3psC20ZcFJ4L3zlfll_xoKbhEiGrohCidOMNox2jxqPRpMnl4WXlZf0mK2aO5uhnjyf36EvpwinK6yYrfG0DLiTvorAZsHFw23Iv8rT0B_UB9Wm18_YJNlb3I3fiukC6rrr7uwY7DjtPO9874jv6_Fs9HH31_k3_Ew=?accountName=Deadbringer&characterName=Sun_Wave
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Scipion75 wrote:
I noticed 2 main diffrences between this build tree (recommended agility version) and the one you are using.
You activated Vaal Pact and Ghost Reaver. You think they are worth it (I read the topic in build Q/A) ?


I think those are recommended only after you have huge ES pool and good damage. I use Life Leech gem on my 6-link, so it eats some damage and you need to compensate with good gear and jewels. I also had 16k ES. If your ES is low, you are "missing" leech by over damaging monsters and even if you're at full ES, you might die relatively easily. When you hit certain ES/dam points, leeching makes mapping and boss killing a lot safer.

I'd recommend VP+GR when you are completely decked out and want to try something little bit different. It also helps to be very high level since these take quite a bit passive points.
Yay just noticed that this little baby (costs 5 ex on std, 20c on legacy) allows us to drop controlled destruction and get 4-link shaper disabler:

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In comparision with Controlled Destruction, 44% more spell dmg vs 30% more elemental damage, helm wins (cause double-dips). Also, we already have 110%x10 stacks more spell dmg so 44% is like nothing.

Also, we get only 10 mana cost on 4-link setup, allowing us to get rid of mana issues.

In addition, do not forget to remove stupid golems (liedge), which give us only about 80% incressed dmg, and take mastermind of discord to get 25% fire penetration (seems also double-dips) which is similar to mini-firepen-gem ("more" multiplier again), working well with elemental equilibrium. Also golems always die in shaper room fast, and mastermind works better in any way.
Former old diablo 2 and median player.
Last edited by pipendrusu#7760 on Apr 14, 2017, 12:06:31 PM
I eyed this build up all last season. Passed by it to do some other, less worthy builds.

Busted this bad boy out this season and it was a bit slow levelling until I tried out that Dark Seer, and that's accelerated me to lakes and it's been a blast ever since. Had to spend approx 180-200c all told in LHC to get geared up but it can be done with way less. Doryani's is the only real pain for broke players.

God tier build, OP. Thanks for the meme caliber ignites.

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