(2.4) Wormblaster the Third (A Herald of Ice build)

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justpayne1414 wrote:
Thanks for the reply, will try get more life on my gear currently sitting just about 7.8k @ lvl 83. I'm currently running blasphemy + frostbite should I drop this and run MoM?


I have MoM on tree, but I run blasphemy-frostbite in cold resist, enfeeble & ele equilibrium maps. Otherwise your killspeed is too slow. For hard hitting bosses I just turn blasphemy off for an extra bit of EHP.

For shaper I changed my setup: I took out vortex (he can't be chilled anyways) and put frost bomb in my harvest. Then I put frostbite in my IC-CWDT setup. That way I still cursed him (slightly lower effectiveness, but better than nothing).
"Fixing the endgame was hard - No matter how hard we buffed red maps, people would keep spamming Gorges.
So we turned Gorge into a red map"
Last edited by qwertz#1626 on Oct 10, 2016, 9:58:56 AM
Im transitioning my lvl 75 slayer into this build. I have a 6-Link Harvest and all but for some reason when I activate Doedre's Elixer it doesnt proc my BV 100% of the time. Its more like 50%.

How can i fix this?

Also my flasks are not recharging enough to sustain as your video does. Is taht due to lvl difference?

Thx.
Loving this build so far, 2/4 guardians down but my map luck has been really poor.

Im wondering for the helmet, is the 30% HOI reduction flat? like mine uses 63% atm, will that go to 33%? or more like 40 something %.

Is it better than getting the 40% increased HOI damage? Im hoping to take out shaper at some point soon, and not sure what to get, i assume being able to take MoM is a bigger benefit but I enjoy running the curse on blasphemy ontop of HOI.

EDIT: Whats the reccomended dps on HOI for shaper? im currently at 6.8k full buffed.
Last edited by bitbite11#0423 on Oct 10, 2016, 9:46:45 AM
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CRYSTALFINWEEED wrote:
Im transitioning my lvl 75 slayer into this build. I have a 6-Link Harvest and all but for some reason when I activate Doedre's Elixer it doesnt proc my BV 100% of the time. Its more like 50%.

How can i fix this?

Also my flasks are not recharging enough to sustain as your video does. Is taht due to lvl difference?

Thx.


Hi what I have learnt is that you must have at least 5280 life as the flask is causing 10% of your life damage to you and with CODT at level 1 and BV on level 1 it procs everytime
Last edited by Shaggy799#0237 on Oct 10, 2016, 9:07:54 AM
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bitbite11 wrote:
Im wondering for the helmet, is the 30% HOI reduction flat? like mine uses 63% atm, will that go to 33%? or more like 40 something %.

Is it better than getting the 40% increased HOI damage? Im hoping to take out shaper at some point soon, and not sure what to get, i assume being able to take MoM is a bigger benefit but I enjoy running the curse on blasphemy ontop of HOI.


This is what it would look like with the 30% enchant and the support gems (1.4*1.4*.1.3) reservation - you can play with the mana values yourself. https://poe.mikelat.com/#o08qc/DwYA4d._b

For me it would be an extra 200 mana (400 vs 600).

Comes down to preference - do you need more damage or more "life". That being said, you can run MoM even without the helmet enchant. I'll just quote myself from earlier in this thread:

from above
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qwertz wrote:

I have MoM on tree, but I run blasphemy-frostbite in cold resist, enfeeble & ele equilibrium maps. Otherwise your killspeed is too slow. For hard hitting bosses I just turn blasphemy off for an extra bit of EHP.

For shaper I changed my setup: I took out vortex (he can't be chilled anyways) and put frost bomb in my harvest. Then I put frostbite in my IC-CWDT setup. That way I still cursed him (slightly lower effectiveness, but better than nothing).


Edit on your edit: also answered above, I had about 9k. Probably wouldn't do it with less than 8k, would just be way too slow.

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Shaggy799 wrote:
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CRYSTALFINWEEED wrote:
Im transitioning my lvl 75 slayer into this build. I have a 6-Link Harvest and all but for some reason when I activate Doedre's Elixer it doesnt proc my BV 100% of the time. Its more like 50%.

How can i fix this?

Also my flasks are not recharging enough to sustain as your video does. Is taht due to lvl difference?

Thx.


Hi what I have learnt is that you must have at least 5280 life as the flask is causing 10% of your life damage to you and with CODT at level 1 and BV on level 1 it procs everytime


Not 100% correct. That would be the amount of life you'd need with 0% chaos resistance. Realistically your resist is lower though. At -60% about 3.8k life should be enough. Make sure your CWDT is level 1 though!
"Fixing the endgame was hard - No matter how hard we buffed red maps, people would keep spamming Gorges.
So we turned Gorge into a red map"
Last edited by qwertz#1626 on Oct 10, 2016, 10:03:04 AM
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qwertz wrote:
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bitbite11 wrote:
Im wondering for the helmet, is the 30% HOI reduction flat? like mine uses 63% atm, will that go to 33%? or more like 40 something %.

Is it better than getting the 40% increased HOI damage? Im hoping to take out shaper at some point soon, and not sure what to get, i assume being able to take MoM is a bigger benefit but I enjoy running the curse on blasphemy ontop of HOI.


This is what it would look like with the 30% enchant and the support gems (1.4*1.4*.1.3) reservation - you can play with the mana values yourself. https://poe.mikelat.com/#o08qc/DwYA4d._b

For me it would be an extra 200 mana (400 vs 600).

Comes down to preference - do you need more damage or more "life". That being said, you can run MoM even without the helmet enchant. I'll just quote myself from earlier in this thread:

from above
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qwertz wrote:

I have MoM on tree, but I run blasphemy-frostbite in cold resist, enfeeble & ele equilibrium maps. Otherwise your killspeed is too slow. For hard hitting bosses I just turn blasphemy off for an extra bit of EHP.

For shaper I changed my setup: I took out vortex (he can't be chilled anyways) and put frost bomb in my harvest. Then I put frostbite in my IC-CWDT setup. That way I still cursed him (slightly lower effectiveness, but better than nothing).


Edit on your edit: also answered above, I had about 9k. Probably wouldn't do it with less than 8k, would just be way too slow.

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Shaggy799 wrote:
Spoiler
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CRYSTALFINWEEED wrote:
Im transitioning my lvl 75 slayer into this build. I have a 6-Link Harvest and all but for some reason when I activate Doedre's Elixer it doesnt proc my BV 100% of the time. Its more like 50%.

How can i fix this?

Also my flasks are not recharging enough to sustain as your video does. Is taht due to lvl difference?

Thx.


Hi what I have learnt is that you must have at least 5280 life as the flask is causing 10% of your life damage to you and with CODT at level 1 and BV on level 1 it procs everytime


Not 100% correct. That would be the amount of life you'd need with 0% chaos resistance. Realistically your resist is lower though. At -60% about 3.8k life should be enough. Make sure your CWDT is level 1 though!


Thanks for all the info. I think I definitely need MoM. I party with some friends and I generally have to tank whatever map it is for the most part, so would rather not die. I guess frosbite on CWDT will have to do for now. Thanks!
Just did the Hydra @ lvl 85 so easy with this build :D


This appears to work well, the damage clearly ramps up swiftly on tanky bosses.

I did a couple fights vs D&T boss as a benchmark. Curious how this compares to your non-emberwake/taming builds in ESC/EHC.

I've also been playing around with different amulets, as I don't feel the slot is worth 100% inc life recovery. The bleed property is essentially useless since IC is up essentially permanently.

Ungil's Harmony is a fairly good option if you don't need the resists.



I'm also dual cursing Flammability + Assassin's mark for hopefully obvious reasons.

I'd like to try a poison scaling added chaos setup for HOI using generic Taming damage, but it would require a BBBGG harvest which is very challenging indeed.
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Last edited by muir#5779 on Oct 11, 2016, 12:17:44 AM


4 guardians down, getting more hp before shaper attempt (7,4k seems low).

tip top build wew!
8k hp, shaper kill me, vortexes doing really hight damage to me...
start lvling for more exp, now 90 with 8.4k

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