General Discussion - Blade Vortex in 2.4. why i see it as BUFF instead of nerf - Forum

" CalamityAOE wrote: I think you guys are underestimating how easy it is to get to 50 stacks and stay near 50. At 45 stacks that means your missing about 10% of your total stacks. Also your assuming you'll have 100% up-time on 20 stacks and that may not be the case. it's likely to be around 16 or something meaning your missing almost 20% of your stacks. So basically the fall off you'll get from losing stacks is higher. Moving around will be a much higher % of your total damage lost. While I do agree the clear speed for just regular mobs will go up a bit. When it comes to fighting a tough boss it's almost a 50% total damage loss. Players with high end blade vortex builds may not need to worry much though because 50% of 10 million is still more then enough to one shot almost any mob in the game. I believe i've put all the numbers in the original post already. So i'm not going to explain it all over again. And your opinion is contradictory: easy to keep 50 stack while not even 100% 20 stack up time?	Posted by NomuraSho#7930 on Aug 31, 2016, 7:07:37 AM Quote this Post
" Wiesl_1404 wrote: Blade Vortex is still great in 2.4 if you invest and build around it - a great build for upcomming content imho. Yes, i remember it being quite lackluster in 2.3 Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes	Posted by Boem#2861 on Aug 31, 2016, 7:07:41 AM On Probation Quote this Post
What acendancy class is used for bladevortex in 2.4?	Posted by Snusker#5195 on Aug 31, 2016, 1:38:09 PM Quote this Post
Honestly the nerf on boss damage is pretty massive and even with the added investment you are very unlikely to be able to compensate for the damage lost. That doesn't mean the skill is unplayable. Basically the skill does 35% less damage (and it was not hard to keep 50 stacks on almost any boss out there) if you had 0 flat damage added. If you had flat damage the damage loss is even higher.	Posted by My_Lego#1271 on Aug 31, 2016, 4:47:26 PM Quote this Post
It might be somewhat of a buff to clearing since we can stack even more phys and spell on the tree since we wont need duration as much but boss's... Well it was a HUGE nerf... Still gonna be a great clearing skill but you might wanna think of something else when it comes to boss downing.. There is a fine line between Consideration and Hesitation. The former is Wisdom, the latter is Fear.	Posted by Demonoz#1375 on Aug 31, 2016, 5:02:43 PM Quote this Post
" Demonoz wrote: It might be somewhat of a buff to clearing since we can stack even more phys and spell on the tree since we wont need duration as much but boss's... Well it was a HUGE nerf... Still gonna be a great clearing skill but you might wanna think of something else when it comes to boss downing.. It's gonna be just fine, compared to other skills '-.- And when in doubt, slot in bladefall and get back to reckting stuff. Peace, -Boem- Freedom is not worth having if it does not include the freedom to make mistakes	Posted by Boem#2861 on Aug 31, 2016, 5:17:21 PM On Probation Quote this Post
ya its a buff for general clearing. the skill was absurd at high stacks anyway. I generally build chars with the same principal, I aim to hit the same ballpark defense figures/layers, use roughly the same level of gear. Almost every char I make, any skill, it ends up somewhere between 70k and 150k dps. My bladevortex caps at 40/41 stacks, and at that point its doing 900k dps... er... I think its a rly good change for the skill. I love all you people on the forums, we can disagree but still be friends and respect each other :)	Posted by Snorkle_uk#0761 on Aug 31, 2016, 5:41:56 PM Quote this Post
well to make 20stacks we all agree its not a problem the rison why you lose stacks when you hit those 50 is just because you waste to mutch time to cast them, before 50 stacks and now 20 but dmg is boosted if my calculation is not wrong at this point 20stacks is equal to 36stacks of old blade vortex and that dmg lost on boss fight can be easy coverd or even get more since you can remove som "cast" gems, by my opinion in worst scenario that gem will have the sime kill speed as before on boss fight and its obviously buffed on trash clear edit: but we will see once the league start :) i will defenetly give it a shot Last edited by čibo#6245 on Sep 1, 2016, 10:21:34 AM	Posted by čibo#6245 on Sep 1, 2016, 10:20:34 AM Quote this Post
Is there any good guide out there for bladevortex in 2.4? :)	Posted by Snusker#5195 on Sep 1, 2016, 10:59:19 AM Quote this Post