>Frostwall< hehe

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Z_Fighters wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

Your own skills should never have hit frostwall. You can't hit your own totems or minions or golems. It made no sense.

it's a damn wall. It's neither a totem, a minion or a golem. it doesn't move, interact, attack or follow you. It is simply a piece of terrain you create.
How do your skills NOT hit a wall? Now it makes no senses that your projectile magically passes straight through a huge wall made of ice.

Maybe because you shoot your arrows OVER the walll? I thought the entire point was to create a barricade between you and the monsters. A blockade so they can't get to you. Not to create a pretend monster that you can use to trigger your skill effects.

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Krappakreepo wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

so wtf is the point FW now lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3IBK72sCYU

Sorry mate, this build got heavily nerfed.

EB reworked
FW has charges now

Truly a masterpiece though.

Peace,

-Boem-

I played frost wall last league



I am not amused

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Z_Fighters wrote:

it's a damn wall. It's neither a totem, a minion or a golem. it doesn't move, interact, attack or follow you. It is simply a piece of terrain you create.
How do your skills NOT hit a wall? Now it makes no senses that your projectile magically passes straight through a huge wall made of ice.

The wall is magical too m8.

Yeah, I tried to make a thread about it in Feedback (here), because the intended change both screws over all useful but non-broken use cases, and it's thematically stupid.

However, going by the replies I got so far, I'm just a salty whiner that wants to keep his stupid OP toys---no matter how many times I reiterate my actual point.


Anyway, having another thread for it in General is good, more exposure might mean GGG actually reads it and goes with the sensible option. Haha, who am I kidding, of course they won't.

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I_NO wrote:

so wtf is the point FW now lol

To block enemies, which was always its reason to be in the game.

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Telzen wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

so wtf is the point FW now lol

To block enemies, which was always its reason to be in the game.

Why would it be wrong if you use skills in a smart manner to make skills work in specific ways.
Other builds just use their main spell over and over again and that's it. For KB & Frostwall you
at least had to do a combo or actually do something besides just using one spell.

I also don't get why a god damn massive Frostwall you cast SHOULDN'T be impacted by your
projectiles you cast towards it. It's a FrostWALL after all.

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JNF wrote:

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mark1030 wrote:

Your own skills should never have hit frostwall. You can't hit your own totems or minions or golems. It made no sense.

Because totems blocked mobs from hitting you?


*herp derp*


Two entirely different objects you are trying to compare there. Instead of trying to compare apples to oranges, you are trying to compare oranges to bicycles.

Totems do block mobs from hitting you.

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Maybe because you shoot your arrows OVER the walll? I thought the entire point was to create a barricade between you and the monsters. A blockade so they can't get to you. Not to create a pretend monster that you can use to trigger your skill effects.

So when your projectile hits a wall in game and explodes due to normal functioning of obstacle collision - you're actually just hitting a pretend monster to trigger skill effects?

If you learned to read, we have said, frost wall should NOT function like a monster like it did before which allowed for silly exploits such as triggering skill effects. Rather it should function like a normal obstacle which thematically makes sense and doesn't brick a ton of clever function you can get out of frost wall.

But, typical GGG instead of re-doing frostwalls 4 year old code they went for the simple band aid fix and turned frostwall into an ally, fixing trigger exploits but also destroying any sensible theme and any clever/synergistic interactions frostwall had.

I'm fine with what they did to FW.

I'm just hoping they bring back power charge interaction like it had previously so I can use it as a hilarious offensive spell with romira's banquet.