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Kelvynn wrote:

I think Chris has already answered this in one of the Q&A's. They won't do it. Forced social interaction (mandatory town visits) is vital for their business model. MTX sales would drop if people can't show them off in towns.

Of course, those lag spikes in towns caused by MTX resource loading are very annoying. But they are working on the performance issues.

I think they need to improve MTX resource usage.

Also make local-client tracking to cache most use MTX & pre-load it. If I load my character at town X, pretty sure I will run into the same player using the same MTX far more often than other MTX.

Generally player use most recent release mtx or challenge MTX more often than the old ones. Pre-load those base on cache/usage activity

PLEASE give us this! Leave all the bugs, but give us this. Give us Barabbus!

Get an ssd already

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Nubatack wrote:

Get an ssd already

Convince GGG to add SSD to their published system requirements, and THEN you can can use this as a retort. Not before.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Nubatack wrote:

Get an ssd already

Convince GGG to add SSD to their published system requirements, and THEN you can can use this as a retort. Not before.

Why do they have to? No game requires it, never even seen it in requirement. At this point every reasonable gamer knows that it's better for ANYTHING. Not even expensive any more

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Nubatack wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

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Nubatack wrote:

Get an ssd already

Convince GGG to add SSD to their published system requirements, and THEN you can can use this as a retort. Not before.

Why do they have to? No game requires it, never even seen it in requirement. At this point every reasonable gamer knows that it's better for ANYTHING. Not even expensive any more

Where did I say they had to? Of course they don't have to.

What I actually said was that your response is not a legitimate retort unless they do.

All games should run acceptably at the published required spec. No exceptions.

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gibbousmoon wrote:

All games should run acceptably at the published required spec. No exceptions.

Can you show me where you found required spec.? or recommended? I could only find minimum system requirements and with those game runs. Thats all you can expect from MINIMUM. Load times are longer, tho once it loads it runs well. Your acceptability seems too high. Minimum requirements are never optimal to play a game

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Nubatack wrote:

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gibbousmoon wrote:

All games should run acceptably at the published required spec. No exceptions.

Can you show me where you found required spec.? or recommended? I could only find minimum system requirements and with those game runs. Thats all you can expect from MINIMUM. Load times are longer, tho once it loads it runs well. Your acceptability seems too high. Minimum requirements are never optimal to play a game

It used to be on their overview page, but I don't see it there anymore. Perhaps they removed it due to people criticizing it? Though that's really not a solution at all. In any case, you can find them here:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/238960/Path_of_Exile/

And I said nothing about what constitutes "acceptability," you did. Why do you keep putting words in my mouth? If people are running a piece of software and they are at the published spec and yet have performance problems, they are going to complain about it.

In that scenario, any variation of "You shouldn't criticize GGG for this because you don't yet have a [any piece of hardware outside of the published spec]" is not a legitimate thing to say.

This is what I am saying. No more, but certainly not less. Got it?

Now, you could just say, "Your performance problems are not a big deal, shut up about it already." Though unkind, it is a legitimate thing to say in this scenario, because it is an opinion. But that's extremely different from saying "Your performance problems are caused by your own poor hardware."

Minimum requirements indicate MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR A GAME TO RUN, just to run. Not to play without lag, not to have fast load times. JUST TO RUN. How do i explain that? (hoping caps lock might help)

If your game doesn't start having those requirements met - then you complain and ask for those to be updated. GGG can not possibly know or predict configuration for you to be able to "run acceptably" due to infinite possible hardware configurations possible. I used to have hdd and play all the game just fine. As the rest of my pc got older upgrading to ssd helped a lot without having to change anything else. ssd is not required to play poe if the rest of your pc is good. The point is that it gives massive boost to load times, which is the whole discussion here. My point is that GGG doesn't need to state the obvious, and having ssd for games is that obvious nowadays

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Nubatack wrote:

My point is that GGG doesn't need to state the obvious, and having ssd for games is that obvious nowadays

My point is yes, they do. :)

I happen to agree with most of what you say, by the way. I bought my SSD and GTX980 specificially for PoE, and the former made a huge difference (the latter not so much). But I don't see a recommended system spec list anywhere which includes SSD.

So we come full circle. Given that an SSD is not required to enjoy all newly released games (let alone ones which are five years old or more), allow me to ask you two hypothetical questions:

1. How much hardware do I need to own before I am entitled to complain about performance on the feedback forum?
2. How can you be anything but arbitrary in answering question #1 if you don't defer to GGG's own recommended system requirements?