Diablo III will crush this game...hell with ur beta!

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WarBarney wrote:

I just don't get why people defend D3, it would have been good 5 years ago but they spent to much time planning ways to be money grubbing buggers and released it way to late.


I know people are saying they enjoy both but think about it, D3 is a game thats been whats, 10 years in development? made by a company that made a MMO that makes billions a year, poe is made by a small indie company in most likely a lot less time.

D3 should blow this out of the water but it doesn't it just about manages to do some things better while poe does other things better (like the graphics and the levels system). And on top of this theres 3 other similar games coming out very shortly as well which also seem to do some things better than D3 and will most likely be games people will enjoy as well. So in my books that makes D3 a complete failure

Am I really the only one who sees that D3 being about as good as these other games made by small indie companies in far less time makes it much worse?

So what you're saying is that we shouldn't like D3 because it took way too long to make and far too many people to make it? I guess I'm not following the logic to that. If the game is good and enjoyable to play then it shouldn't matter if it takes 5 people or 500 people. It's far more impressive when a smaller developer creates a great game for sure, but the size of the studio has nothing to do with whether or not you want a game.

If you've played both betas, there are things to like about both of these games. The production value in D3 is much higher (as you'd expect for the size and resources available to Blizzard) but without the ruins in place and the very limited size of the beta you really can't get a good feel on the final product. PoE on the other hand gives us a good idea of how good this game will be.

I think that D3 wont affect it that much, although it will lose some supporters.
It's simple for me, this one is free, and from what i'we seen (still waiting for that key) there is a loot of dept here, with the skills and gems, etc.

since i find $50+ a lot of money, as do many i guess, i'll be first to first try this one before considering buying D3.

further more, u can always play them both for PoE is free :)

It might not make it a *bad* game but in my opinion it makes it shoddy as they should have come up with something much better considering all the extra money and people they've had working on it, when you combine that with its price tag compared to poe (not free) it just boggles my mind that anybody would play it over this other than because its a diablo. If it was just another game and not diablo it would be completely crushed by poe and torchlight 2.

My main gripe with D3 though is its not randomly geneterate from what I've seen which is a joke! what I loved about diablo was the randomly generated levels which made it have great replayability, in D3 all that happens is theres say 10 dungeons in an area, and sometimes 3 of them are open, sometimes 2, and of course which ones are open varies, thats not even close to good enough.

To be honest though, it could be the perfect game but I still will never play it because of the AH system, every f2p game knows that you NEVER sell power, but not only are they selling the game they are letting people buy power and completely destroy the economy. How in the hell has WoW not completely collapsed if thats how they run their games...

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WarBarney wrote:

I just don't get why people defend D3, it would have been good 5 years ago but they spent to much time planning ways to be money grubbing buggers and released it way to late.


I know people are saying they enjoy both but think about it, D3 is a game thats been whats, 10 years in development? made by a company that made a MMO that makes billions a year, poe is made by a small indie company in most likely a lot less time.

D3 should blow this out of the water but it doesn't it just about manages to do some things better while poe does other things better (like the graphics and the levels system). And on top of this theres 3 other similar games coming out very shortly as well which also seem to do some things better than D3 and will most likely be games people will enjoy as well. So in my books that makes D3 a complete failure

Am I really the only one who sees that D3 being about as good as these other games made by small indie companies in far less time makes it much worse?

So what you're saying is that we shouldn't like D3 because it took way too long to make and far too many people to make it? I guess I'm not following the logic to that. If the game is good and enjoyable to play then it shouldn't matter if it takes 5 people or 500 people. It's far more impressive when a smaller developer creates a great game for sure, but the size of the studio has nothing to do with whether or not you want a game.

If you've played both betas, there are things to like about both of these games. The production value in D3 is much higher (as you'd expect for the size and resources available to Blizzard) but without the ruins in place and the very limited size of the beta you really can't get a good feel on the final product. PoE on the other hand gives us a good idea of how good this game will be.

I think his point was quality. If you have more resources and a longer time it should be amazing. Take that many years to develop a game the beta should have some really good content. The only thing that really impresses me the most is the artwork and the creature design. That looks amazing, no question.

Heres ana analogy of what i think they are trying to say:
If 5 people wash your car and its just the same, but took longer than one person doing the same job some place else.... do you tip the 5 people higher than the one person who did just as good a job as the other 5? or do you say its ok, its the same? I might be off but I kinda see where that person is coming from

Indeed, and if you continue that analagy in this case you are actually tipping the 5 people more as the 1 person (poe) isn't even asking for a tip while the 5 people are asking for a huge tip cos they are well known and then add a stupid AH system that lets people buy power and completely destroys the economy

(yes I know the analogy sort of screwed up at the end there but I just really hate the AH system, its an example of whats wrong with modern gaming)

Any chance of revoking the OP's beta membership, and passing it along to someone else who's been waiting since CB launch? Oh, the irony =(

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djkool wrote:

Heres ana analogy of what i think they are trying to say:
If 5 people wash your car and its just the same, but took longer than one person doing the same job some place else.... do you tip the 5 people higher than the one person who did just as good a job as the other 5? or do you say its ok, its the same? I might be off but I kinda see where that person is coming from

While I love a good analogy, that one really doesn't work in this case. The car washes in question are still being built. They haven't even had a chance to open their doors to begin washing all of our cars. The car wash that will have 5 people washing my car that is taking its own sweet time making their high-end facility showed me how great of a job they'll do once they are open by washing my driver side mirror.

The other car wash being built doesn't have the resources available that the big, high-end carwash has so they might not have all the bells and whistles as the other one has, and yet they have everything they need to build a damn good car wash. The 1 person they had available washed my hood, front grill, and 2 front wheels and I’m impressed with his work. He did a better job getting the bug guts off of the hood and grill than the high-end car wash did on my mirror, but the high-end carwash did a better job applying the polish and wax. Well, at least I think they did, it's hard to tell on such a small part of the car after all.

So here we have WarBarney saying "Don't go to this high-end carwash! Judging from the mirror I've seen them clean and the number of people doing it it has taken them far too long to build this car wash."

WarBarney doesn't know the actual quality of the job these car washes will do once they are built. None of us do. We have an idea of their strengths and weakness based on what we've seen of the construction of the buildings and the small demo we've seen, but neither are open for business nor did they have all of their soaps, shammies, and buffers available to them when we got a demonstration of their work. So please tell me, what is the relevancy of the time it takes for these car washes to be built and the number of people that will be working it once they open? Does it matter if one takes longer that the other to build or the number of employees it takes to work it? It shouldn't. It should be about how good my car looks when they are actually open for business and washing cars.

Although both games are within the same genre they really aren't that comparable to one another. PoE is proving to be brilliant and refreshingly different to D3. I personally think I'll enjoy both games...

I think where Blizzard stands out is that they make a great community around their games.. if all you'r friends play it, you will play it too.

Uh... All I heard about WoW was how it was played by the most angry vile people ever, chat being mostly full of people saying *give me that item* and if you say no they then scream disgusting vile things at your for hours. And from what I saw in diablo 2 that sounds about right, that game was full of the most horrible type of gamers around. Hell theres proof of that on this forum, all the blizzard fans I've seen are people making accounts just for the purpose of screaming how bad they think poe is and how stupid everybody is for playing it when we could play a blizzard game. The dreadful community in blizzard games is part of the reason I try to make sure I never play them

And no I'm saying you can go to the brand car wash if you want but your just going to be paying for a brand name and getting nothing better than you would get from the smaller one (and in the smaller one you don't have a real money AH destroying all hopes of pvp or a working game economy).

The relevance is that it shows ability, who would you say is better, somebody who takes 10 years to build a car wash or somebody who takes far less time and makes it just as good as the 10 year one, personally I'd rather go with the one made in a shorter time as if they did that in such a short time in the 10 years it took the other guys they will have made tons of amazing improvements so its massively better tan the other one.