[2.6 / 3.0] BLADE VORTEX OBLITERATION

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sangvinu2 wrote:

how about using empower 3 or 4 , would that bring higher dmg and what would you take out, area/conc or something else

cheers

You can find a more accurate answer in the first post, but essentially empower lv3/4 gives you pretty much the same damage you would gain using Iron Will (which costs way less), obviously depending on your STR.
If you wanna go for the max dps setup:
-blade vortex
-added chaos
-void manipulation
-controlled destruction
-Iron will (or empower, if you have low STR)
-concentrated effect (for general clearing Spell echo is suggested)

With the Hidden Potential version, I see that you guys pick "Practical Application" and "Deep Wisdom" nodes. Do these do anything useful for the build?

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TheHeadsmasher wrote:

With the Hidden Potential version, I see that you guys pick "Practical Application" and "Deep Wisdom" nodes. Do these do anything useful for the build?

They are not needed for the build, but they are mostly pathing points. You need to go through Deep Wisdom if you wanna link the AOE cluster with the life/mana one (it's very suggested to take both those clusters); Practical Application is more optional, I personally do not take it, mostly because I do not find it necessary or worth. In the first character I made, with the Carcass Jack, I take Unwavering Stance, so those points are totally wasted; in the second one, with Cospri's, I use boots with "80% stun avoidance while killed recently" and I found myself not needing more stun avoidance.
Overall it's mostly personal preference and tree pathing.

So if I go Hidden Potential route, I already fulfill the scaling the explosions section, right?

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LuckYEiner wrote:

So if I go Hidden Potential route, I already fulfill the scaling the explosions section, right?

Yes, you fulfill it by far.

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lallalaus wrote:

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LuckYEiner wrote:

So if I go Hidden Potential route, I already fulfill the scaling the explosions section, right?

Yes, you fulfill it by far.

But what exactly does that mean? That i oneshot packs if i kill one of the mobs? Cuz that's not always the case.

Well.. Monsters can have some chaos resist, which reduces explosion damage, so you won't always one shot them. But in most situations you should be able to.

Alright I think I have made the 2 most optimal paths for the Hidden potential build but I need an expert to tell me which way to go. Either up and over with no large nodes or down under for the reflexes node and slightly more life potential.

1st Path: Slightly easier to get a jewel slot and more of a mixed bag of +10 travel nodes this also has slightly more (6%) max life:

http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAQchAACBA-4EBwSzCPQNHw5cD6sRLREvFCAWvxzcHb4fAiL0JIsmlSj6KjgsnDLRM4c1kjY9Olg64TwFPCg9Xz38PydBh0VHRX5FnUrITLNN41BCUEdSU1M1U1JVS1XGWGNZbV8_X5hh4mKsakNqjGr6bAtsjG0ZbqpvO3gNeWh7w3yDgseD24P3hMWKr4w2jM-PGpARkyeXlZf0muCbtZy-naqf36EvogCi2aZXqW6w2LVItfK3PriTvOq-isAawFTAZsEEwzrG2MgUzzLQH9i962Pr7u8O73zv6_Af8kX1b_ZI-ej-Cv6P74j5N9fPSbF2gsgMtNEW6SGQJDdf0JhXvwjqEPhfAAAAAAA=

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2nd Path: I think this path is better because from what i can see we stack more evade than anything else because of cospri's will and we get more dex and the reflexes node. Also, we have access to the harrier node which this build benefits from because of the lack of movement skill and the cast speed. Finally, we take the far left jewel instead of the bottom near reflexes in order to get a bit more dps from Iron Will since it is the same travel distance:

http://poeplanner.com/AAQAAQshAACDA-4EBwSzCPQNHw5cD6sRLREvFCAWvxzcHb4fAiSLJpUo-io4LJwy0TOHNZI2PTpYOuE8BTwoPV89_D8nQYdFR0V-RZ1KyEyzTeNSU1NSVUtVxlhjWW1fP1-YYeJirGpDaoxq-myMbRltbG6qbzt4DXloe8N8g4LHg9uD94qvjM-PGpARl5WX9JrgnL6dqp_fogCi2aZXqW6w2LVItfK3PriTvOrAGsBUwGbBBMM6xtjIFM8y0B_Yvetj6-7vDu987-vwH_JF9W_2SPno_gr-jypNfVusR1FMykqbtV-whMVvnoMJ8bNLV8DjdoLIDLTRg8w8LYNfFukhkCQ3X9CYV78I6hD4XwAAAAAA

Like I said I may have overlooked something to make path 1 more viable but please take a look and let me know.

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lallalaus wrote:

You can find a more accurate answer in the first post, but essentially empower lv3/4 gives you pretty much the same damage you would gain using Iron Will (which costs way less), obviously depending on your STR.
If you wanna go for the max dps setup:
-blade vortex
-added chaos
-void manipulation
-controlled destruction
-Iron will (or empower, if you have low STR)
-concentrated effect (for general clearing Spell echo is suggested)

wow wtf was i looking at...i must have been tired...

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viper9494 wrote:

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lallalaus wrote:

You can find a more accurate answer in the first post, but essentially empower lv3/4 gives you pretty much the same damage you would gain using Iron Will (which costs way less), obviously depending on your STR.
If you wanna go for the max dps setup:
-blade vortex
-added chaos
-void manipulation
-controlled destruction
-Iron will (or empower, if you have low STR)
-concentrated effect (for general clearing Spell echo is suggested)

You are missing Added Chaos so i think this may not be the best 6 link setup??? Was that just overlooked, or on purpose?

Actually Added Chaos is the second in the list..