[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Creds wrote:
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Endactam wrote:
Out of curiosity Creds what's the cast time of WI on your build? I see in that screenshot 0.77 casts / second by the thread author. This build can get down to 0.30 - 0.35.

Sure a shavs multi aura all unique version of this build is going to do good damange and have great resists but at a significantly increased cost. The buld you're talking about is also running 2x lvl 4 enlightens and 1 lvl 4 empower. Not even close to comparable to this build which can do all endgame content significantly cheaper. It also leeches hp @ 1% damage where this one leeches @ 4%. Yours is also missing fortify. It appears to be following the mantra of what's dead can't hurt you which works quite well in poe.

Not saying the build you're following isn't good - it is but it's different and appears to have a lot less defense and more offence and initial cost.


with Hypothermia 0,32 with cullingstrike 0,30

you can check my Char: Freezing_Cold i use ather gems and depens on wich boss i change them

Hey... your perandus signets are 3%... ah they got nerfed to 2% in 2.0.0 This may be why they don't seem as good in essence league.
If we need warlords mark for mana leech to cast icestorm. Its difficult to do hexproof monsters or bosses with this build?...Im asking because I wanna level a witch but i wanna know whats coming in endgame....thanks!!
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yissus wrote:
If we need warlords mark for mana leech to cast icestorm. Its difficult to do hexproof monsters or bosses with this build?...Im asking because I wanna level a witch but i wanna know whats coming in endgame....thanks!!

We're a tri curse build. Hexproof hurts but is doable, not recommended but doable. Worst map is no regen volcano for the boss. I just switch to my alt staff and throw a mana leech gem in for those.
All of you guys choose Kaitryn in bandits for resistances? or Its not difficult to cap ressistances with the build?...We must use a lot of uniques so i suppose we need super expensive good rares with high resists or with normal rares we can cap resistances?...
Kraityn is not essential, you can overcap resists without.
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RoCKeTs wrote:
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Creds wrote:
You made my day - 25ex haha

I don't even give a shit about the rest of what you say, but here is facts :
Shavronne's Wrappings 6.5-7ex
Atziri's Acuity 15-16ex
21.5ex for 2 items, add other items to get a complete stuff and you rapidly reach ~25ex.

He's using a CORRUPTED Acuity with a very specific vaal mod as his defense against stun. I don't think he was laughing at your estimate of 25ex as being too high ;)

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Creds wrote:
you can check my Char: Freezing_Cold i use ather gems and depens on wich boss i change them

Thanks for opening your character. That sort of gear is not going to happen in a new league, and not a lot of people can get that in Standard either.

Are you able to do the 4 guardians yourself, or just buy frags and do the Shaper? Looks like you can't facetank the big bosses, just dodge and get it down with high damage Icestorm?

Why Bated Breath and not Perandus Blazon? Wouldn't that be more beneficial to the all-unique build?


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Endactam wrote:
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yissus wrote:
If we need warlords mark for mana leech to cast icestorm. Its difficult to do hexproof monsters or bosses with this build?...Im asking because I wanna level a witch but i wanna know whats coming in endgame....thanks!!

We're a tri curse build. Hexproof hurts but is doable, not recommended but doable. Worst map is no regen volcano for the boss. I just switch to my alt staff and throw a mana leech gem in for those.

WM is just the main source of mana. But we have two alternative source - the boot enchantment and this cheap unique ring (switch with Doedre's):

You can do Hexproof NoRegen maps just fine, with some practice (know when to start and stop casting). I have done a Hexproof NoRegen Minotaur once because the map rolled crazy IIQ and pack size and it was worth doing just for the drops from trash mobs (got 3 T16 maps!), but I killed the boss anyway.


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yissus wrote:
All of you guys choose Kaitryn in bandits for resistances? or Its not difficult to cap ressistances with the build?...We must use a lot of uniques so i suppose we need super expensive good rares with high resists or with normal rares we can cap resistances?...

Usually, by the time you get to lv 86-90, you still need some resists. Kraityn's +10% is nice for 1 skill point. And when your endgame gear gets good enough to overcap all resists by 10%, you surely have 20 Regrets in your stash. My Shaper farmer char in the Essence league still has Kraityn at lv 92. I don't care to find godly gear for him there, his total budget is less than 10 ex. Without Kraityn his resists would be lacking (he has 133 LR even with Kraityn, but that's acceptable) and I'd need to spend more currency on better items. 1 skill point, 1 level, is an easy enough solution.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Oct 8, 2016, 12:02:14 PM
Enlighten lv 3 its mandatory? or can we use a level 2 more easy to level up one from level 1?
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Kelvynn wrote:
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RoCKeTs wrote:
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Creds wrote:
You made my day - 25ex haha

I don't even give a shit about the rest of what you say, but here is facts :
Shavronne's Wrappings 6.5-7ex
Atziri's Acuity 15-16ex
21.5ex for 2 items, add other items to get a complete stuff and you rapidly reach ~25ex.

He's using a CORRUPTED Acuity with a very specific vaal mod as his defense against stun. I don't think he was laughing at your estimate of 25ex as being too high ;)

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Creds wrote:
you can check my Char: Freezing_Cold i use ather gems and depens on wich boss i change them

Thanks for opening your character. That sort of gear is not going to happen in a new league, and not a lot of people can get that in Standard either.

Are you able to do the 4 guardians yourself, or just buy frags and do the Shaper? Looks like you can't facetank the big bosses, just dodge and get it down with high damage Icestorm?

Why Bated Breath and not Perandus Blazon? Wouldn't that be more beneficial to the all-unique build?


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Endactam wrote:
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yissus wrote:
If we need warlords mark for mana leech to cast icestorm. Its difficult to do hexproof monsters or bosses with this build?...Im asking because I wanna level a witch but i wanna know whats coming in endgame....thanks!!

We're a tri curse build. Hexproof hurts but is doable, not recommended but doable. Worst map is no regen volcano for the boss. I just switch to my alt staff and throw a mana leech gem in for those.

WM is just the main source of mana. But we have two alternative source - the boot enchantment and this cheap unique ring (switch with Doedre's):

You can do Hexproof NoRegen maps just fine, with some practice (know when to start and stop casting). I have done a Hexproof NoRegen Minotaur once because the map rolled crazy IIQ and pack size and it was worth doing just for the drops from trash mobs (got 3 T16 maps!), but I killed the boss anyway.


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yissus wrote:
All of you guys choose Kaitryn in bandits for resistances? or Its not difficult to cap ressistances with the build?...We must use a lot of uniques so i suppose we need super expensive good rares with high resists or with normal rares we can cap resistances?...

Usually, by the time you get to lv 86-90, you still need some resists. Kraityn's +10% is nice for 1 skill point. And when your endgame gear gets good enough to overcap all resists by 10%, you surely have 20 Regrets in your stash. My Shaper farmer char in the Essence league still has Kraityn at lv 92. I don't care to find godly gear for him there, his total budget is less than 10 ex. Without Kraityn his resists would be lacking (he has 133 LR even with Kraityn, but that's acceptable) and I'd need to spend more currency on better items. 1 skill point, 1 level, is an easy enough solution.


Dude dont get it wrong i just saying that you can reach higher dmg :) and dont said your build suxx :)

Yeah i can easy Tank bosses since i hit 4k shield recharge / 9,4k Armour and have leech wich makes it easy :)

Why not the ather belt - couse my belt gives me 23+ Int 10% Spell dmg and shield recharge :)
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Creds wrote:
Yeah i can easy Tank bosses since i hit 4k shield recharge / 9,4k Armour and have leech wich makes it easy :)

ES recharge doesn't work when you are tanking. You carry Sorrow of the Divine, but ZO doesn't work with VP - it doesn't make any sense.

9.4k armor from what?? Granite flask is only 2x 6 sec. And then what? You won't kill anything in T16 in 12 sec even with a 44k Icestorm.

Oh wow, you haven't even done Uber Lab? Why?

Not using Paragon either. So you can't do reflect then? That was one of the terminal flaws in the all-unique versions before 2.3. But you still don't have that. Weird Ascendancy choices there.

Sorry, man, but I'm starting to doubt you a little here... How is this all even working? Most maps are way too easy for WI and can be powered through even with a seemingly broken build. But T16? The Shaper?

Are you actually doing the endgame stuff, or just saying that you can? Got any T16 or Shaper videos with this build of yours?
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Oct 8, 2016, 5:44:39 PM
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yissus wrote:
Enlighten lv 3 its mandatory? or can we use a level 2 more easy to level up one from level 1?

You can play with Enlighten lv 1 in Black Sun Crest without AA. Once it becomes lv 2 you can start using AA and have mana for 1 cast of Icestorm with CE (full boss DPS) or 2 casts with IR (good enough for mapping). And once it's lv 3 you have all the mana you ever need. Lv 4 is a luxury upgrade that lets you pre-stack a bunch of Icestorms before the fight starts (Shaper talking, Izaro arriving, Atziri phases, triggered fights, essences, strongboxes) - but that's not necessary.
Last edited by Kelvynn#6607 on Oct 8, 2016, 3:20:13 PM

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