[2.6] The Curse Whisperer - Tri-Curse CI Whispering Ice Elementalist - Viable for Everything

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Kelvynn wrote:

Then buy gear upgrades.

Problem is, there is not enough good gear on poe.trade. And upgrading it becomes difficult because of the need to balance resists. There were these 6exa gloves I drooled over yesterday. 220 ES, 40/40 resists. Got lucky, managed to get enough currency, seller wanted only exa and chaos, and while I converted he logged off(to sleep, probably), today they are sold, pmed to confirm, and found out that I missed them by 30 minutes. Gearing right now is pain in this CI meta.

I'm getting there. Sold some stuff for getting to later gear.



Oh, and I got 2 Izaro's Turmoils too.

I'm Level 59.

I have about 3.1k ES with Discipline up.

Then I have about 75/60/75 Resistances (in Merciless).

My Ice Storm is sitting at ~2.8k damage with both golems up.

Oh, and i have about 400 mana after reserves.

(I think I have like 920 Int? about 1000 with the Sun Crest but I need to fix my resistances before I start using the Crest)

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Kelvynn wrote:

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IsildurStefy wrote:

Kelvin, if you have time check my build. _Jaelle_ is the character. What are my next priorities ?

1. Boots. You need movespeed and more Int.

2. Belt. Since you are going with the Crystal Belt option, you can EASILY craft one in the Essence league: buy an ilvl 84 base, scour it if it's not white, then trans/aug/alt it until you get a good +ES prefix and a high resist suffix. Then regal it and see if it rolls 2nd resist mod. If not - scour and go again. Then craft the 3rd resist on it (Tora).

Or you can just check the market and buy something you can afford with 50+ Int. For example, I got this for my Inquisitor for 50c (plus 2 Divines and 3 Blesseds to roll max Int and implicit):

3. Black Sun Crest. Or at least a better rare helmet with more Int and resists.

4. Your gloves may be better off with a 2nd resist crafted mod instead of 62% ES.

5. Divine that Astramentis. It can only get better. Or MUCH better.

6. Blessed that Pyre. With how cheap Blessed orbs are, no reason not to get 6% better cold res.

Tyvm sir ! I'll do my best next days and I let you know later how is going :) Good luck !

Yesterday finally managed to 5-L my chest armor and run the CWDT ball lightning curses setup. ...just to find out I prefer the 4-L orb of storms cursing, and so ended up using the 5-L for that with added area of effect for a bigger cursing orb area. I just feel like I'm taking more damage more quickly if I have to be hit first for the curses to be applied, so the first hits I take that activate it always come through at full damage. While the Orb without CWDT requires me to manually place it to curse, it makes me feel safer to actually weaken the enemies before they get to hit me. And has the combined use of triggering overload / the last ascendancy node I don't have yet. (...cause I keep dying to traps in uber lab)

Because leap slam feels slow to me as a mobility skill, even with faster attacks, I instead use flame dash for mobility and if I have to deal with high phys damage, get fortify through vigilant strike (single target melee skill that gives long fortify duration, can't miss). Does feel a bit awkward to run (or flamedash) into melee to hit with stick once for getting the buff, but the slow leap slams felt worse to me.

Now I'm not sure what to upgrade next, gear-wise. Chest armor is probably the best I could get within a price range I can afford. Gloves seem great (40 int, double resist, 200 ES and 16% spell damage implicit), boots are a bit weak on ES (120) but have 46 int, dual res and 30% movespeed. I guess I could get a 18% staff and 15% helmet (mine are 17% / 14%) but not sure how much that 1% is worth. Getting 6S or the 3 off-colors on helmet again seems like a pain. Astramentis has average roll, but already burned two divine on it for a pitiful +1 int increase. Considering to replace Auxium with a high int + ES Crystal Belt and just rely on anti-freeze flask, and get a little cold res on it (am 10% below cap, but only without endurance charges) so I don't have to spend a passive for that.

But yeah.. any advice would be welcome :3
(I removed the privacy setting so my char should be visible in profile)

(...since posting this I kinda already did a bunch of the upgrades I was planning on. Got lucky on another 2 divines on astramentis, max roll <3)

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Kelvynn wrote:

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Lyanar wrote:

I spend like what...40 chaos ? (maybe a little more) to buy deafening essence of spite but i could not roll a single good Vaal Regalia....

I'm stuck in this « grey area » and i can't do much about it, everything i've tried failed....

Don't waste currency trying to craft a good chest yourself (unless 100c is pocket change for you). Essence crafting is better than regular chaosing (you are guaranteed one 'T0' suffix) but it's 4-5 times more expensive. The chance of getting a great result is still very small.

Farm Uber Lab for currency/maps/gems/frags/uniques. Then buy gear upgrades. This build can do Uber Izaro with max buffs (i.e. max keys) on any day (or most days if you are not geared to take 7.5k hits yet).

Or just make a cheap lab farmer char such as the Marohi EQ build recommended by ZiggyD and use it as your source of income to gear up your main char.

I've done the Uber only to get my last 2pts, every bonus run i've tried to do after that i died somewhere along the way...

I'll thought about a uber lab run build but not EQ i don't like it.

Firstly, thank you so much Kelvynn for this build, always wanted to play an Ice whisperer build. Felt in love with the build the moment i touched 33. CI at level 33 sounded so crazy till I got to try it out myself, loved it! Just reached 90, I lack a level 3 enlighten, so am using a reduce reserve mana node below CI. Apart from that, followed your build through and through, but now, I am thinking of going for Thief Craft/Foresight for more Int/ES instead of the last jewel slot which you suggested for the 2nd fertile mind. ES is currently 7.3k, damage is 6.6k with CE currently.

You are welcomed to check out my gear to see where I could get further ES if you think I am lacking ES by a lot, currently I believe it's my Chest that's the weakest link, I could be wrong. Saving for a 800ES + 40int chest now.

Thoughts on using Orb of Storms linked to curses instead of the CWDT setup? On trash you could still use the original one, but on bosses you will have the orb up all the time anyway so it should be very reliable, and frees up a link. An enhance would be an amazing 5th link, but its not red so probably not really an option. Otherwise I'd probably use a decoy totem since it works really well on some of the harder hitting bosses.

Plus you can put vaal disc in the socket that was originally occupied by the orb, though you'd need to charge it up beforehand (apparently they don't charge in swap weapons).

Btw when you list damage, do you list it with or without pendulum?

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Kelvynn wrote:

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Lyanar wrote:

I spend like what...40 chaos ? (maybe a little more) to buy deafening essence of spite but i could not roll a single good Vaal Regalia....

I'm stuck in this « grey area » and i can't do much about it, everything i've tried failed....

Don't waste currency trying to craft a good chest yourself (unless 100c is pocket change for you). Essence crafting is better than regular chaosing (you are guaranteed one 'T0' suffix) but it's 4-5 times more expensive. The chance of getting a great result is still very small.

Farm Uber Lab for currency/maps/gems/frags/uniques. Then buy gear upgrades. This build can do Uber Izaro with max buffs (i.e. max keys) on any day (or most days if you are not geared to take 7.5k hits yet).

Or just make a cheap lab farmer char such as the Marohi EQ build recommended by ZiggyD and use it as your source of income to gear up your main char.

I actually had a lot of trouble with yesterday's Izaro. He didn't oneshot, but he took sooo little damage so I couldn't instantly leech back, so half of my runs ended badly.

I haven't watched Ziggyd but wouldn't you want something with a ton of run speed+regen so you can run through traps blindly? That seems more important than one-shotting Izaro, assuming you can do him safely (since he'll never hit you if you just run in circles, I'm guessing totems would be the way to go).

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Also, is Grandmasters still doable with this? I don't want to waste 20c on a map if I can't complete it, I heard people are having a lot of trouble with Qbot/Dyness (the CI max block regen tank).

LOVE this build so far, any options for Astramentis? Mine didn't get +1 Curse and cheapest one is 40 exalts. So what other option do I have?

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Jax_ wrote:

LOVE this build so far, any options for Astramentis? Mine didn't get +1 Curse and cheapest one is 40 exalts. So what other option do I have?

You don't need +1 Astramentis, just take Whispers of Doom notable and Doedre's Damning ring. I don't even see +1 Astramentis mentioned anywhere in the guide.