Who else is not going to play PoE anymore because of the lab?

I think GGG wants us to use labs for the Shrine for enchants, not to get loot which is why the nerf was made.

Labs are hella fun I never had this much fun in my life

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TriniGamer wrote:

I think GGG wants us to use labs for the Shrine for enchants, not to get loot which is why the nerf was made.

Labs are hella fun I never had this much fun in my life

Enchants are so random it is barely worth it really....

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malbosia wrote:

It's about as fun as running a two hour escort quest, not hard at all just ANNOYING as all hell. I supposed if you are/want to run a handful of classes it is fine but as it stands I really think that it adds nothing to the game. I've been playing this game since alpha and while I have had issues with some changes the "maze" just seems lazy. Personally if this is the direction forward I'm going to just have to go elsewhere. The lab is a piece of shitty toilet paper stuck to the bottom of a pretty girls shoe when she walks about of the bathroom.

wow so true. I seriously have like 7-8 toons ascend never been in lab more than 30x. Absolute minimum. Dreadful.

Everyone's raging like mad... I really don't get it. The lab is fine! When I stumble across an offering, I run the lab, if not, well... I don't.
Everyone's actink like they're somehow forced to do it all day long, while this is clearly not the case. I wouldn't want to do it for several hours straight but for a little change of scenery I'm growing really fond of it.

Damage is done and most hope is lost. Was hoping GGG would correct coarse after the onslaught of hate for the lab and correctly so its terribad. They should know it by now. Lab was utter failure then they followed with another lab. (Really GGG u think we want more of this lab trash?) Tons of ppl are leaving or retiring including myself fed up with the lab because its just the latest in a string of horrible decisions for the game. Fix map xp. Elimiate lab. Make moar uniques worth something. Make better loot system. Make more cool leagues. Add more of cool leagues to standard. You have to trade for everything good u never get ur own drops which leads to my next one. Automate trading. Crap takes too long. Everyone is always afk. The ppl who arnt afk are often total douches. Automation eliminates these issues in trading. I could go on and on which is a shame because POE has fallen so far. It was such a gem but no more. Bring it back GGG. Its not too late for those who just retired awaing changes like myself. Save your game its dying. Just look at the steam users who started prophecy. 10k less than last league.

In an update to my earlier posts in this thread, I'll no longer seriously be playing HC because of the lab. It's way too easy to die to traps compared to regular content. Unless you're playing a build specifically designed to faceroll the lab, traps can end you in a flash.

Other content you can overlevel, portal out to equip different flasks right before the boss, reroll with chaos, skip the boss completely, or do whatever to still be able to play it to some extent. You can't do that with the lab, though. Some builds will simply never be safe, and they're either locked out of some Ascendancy points or have a high chance of dying if they run the lab anyway due to this.

I can skip Core Malachai and still run the rest of the map, but I can't skip ridiculous trap gauntlets or Izaro's crazy high physical damage and still get my Ascendancy points. After dying in my first HC trial ever, I ended up skipping all the map trials on my next character simply because the risk of dying was not remotely worth the reward. That wasn't fun.

I still mostly enjoyed the lab in SC, though. It just sucks that I can no longer have fun playing HC due to the lab. Locking important parts of character development behind disproportionately dangerous content kills it for me.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

So what are the Uber trials like? I heard they are even worse than the regular ones although I cant imagine how that is possible.

Take the Pain... then DOUBLE IT...

Pierching Truth uber trial tried to Pierce my ass, and succeded....

Triple the pain if you have low regen Char, like my Shadow/Assassin

ANNOYING AS HELL

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SevenOfNine86 wrote:

Triple the pain if you have low regen Char, like my Shadow/Assassin

It's kinda funny, players will tack on all kinds of crap for Atziri fight but expect to run the lab safely in their birthday suit.

To be honest about this, map trials don't really give you a chance to prepare, you run into them by accident instead of on demand like you do with Atziri. Sure, in the general case you can hop back to your shack and outfit yourself properly but it's a bit of a hassle to do it all the time even though getting killed because you were lazy hurts twice as much.

Maybe it would be a better idea to do the same thing with endgame trials as they did with sacrifice fragments - running merciless lab could give you offering pieces that would open a random map trial on heir own and any four different pieces would open the endgame lab.

GGG really needs to have a sit down with community about lab. No more hosting "design this unique" threads. We have enough unique (some grossly OP this patch BTW). Content needs work from lab to maps to end game with community input.

This is a troll post:

I have a hobby: Counting serious posts in whining threads.

What is a serious post: It gives arguments and reasons or ... a simple answer why somebody hates X (in this case X should be replaced by labyrinth). It must not be constructive but any plausible reason would be fine.

My hobby is very easy.

Just some examples:

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character development behind disproportionately dangerous content kills it for me.

You know, it is called hardcore for a reason.

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map trials don't really give you a chance to prepare

You can just ignore them and go on.

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I've been playing this game since alpha

What a tremendous argument ...

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I mean it should be just another way to play and not be mandatory IMO

It is not mandatory. And it is not for free. You have to invest ... time.

PS: I like the lab. Skilled play and patience will prevent you from death through maps.