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SpareTheRod1976 wrote:
Please stop saying that Ascendancy points are not fundamental/basic or that you dont need them to play.
We all know that from now on, the game and its content will be balanced around the ascendancy classes, even Chris said it himself in the patch notes...
(something like "due to the power creep certain monsters have been added to the game", too tired to copy/paste it here:) :( )
So, for anyone that says ascendancy is optional, that is simply not true, the game WILL be balanced around it.
That leaves a percentage of the playerbase (how small or big I do not know, but big enough for us to have these conversations/threads in the forums) unable or unwilling to do the lab.
Unable cause of build/skill/gear/old pc? Opinions vary..
Unwilling cause... well, each has his own reasons:)
Now, since Ascendancy points are mandatory and NOT optional, I believe that there should be an alternative way of rewarding them without ofc hindering/stopping the players who do enjoy the lab and its mechanics.
I believe that each one of us finds different things "fun to do" in this game and that we should all be able to enjoy it without attacking/trashing each others' playstyle.
Thats all, I hope noone got insulted by my post, it was not my intention at all, just wanted to add my opinion in the mix:)
Have fun mates:)
They arent, its be much appreciated if people like you could understand that but apparently thats out of your realm of comprehension.
Its optional, are you telling me i cant fucking play characters i play all the time on Standard League without Ascending ? Because i can. They work exactly like they did before 2.2 and 2.3. If i choose to Ascend im just getting free power from the Ascendancy points making the content i was already capable of going even easier.
How about earning them like everyone else if you want them ? That sounds good to me and it certainly seems to be GGGs full intention.
Love how you back up your argument with absolutely nothing and ignore factual evidence.
FACT - Nothing mechanically changed in 2.2 or 2.3 that would make or break a build that currently functioned before either.
FACT - Monsters havent recieved any sort of buff, the new monster types are fodder as excepted and do not make mapping any more difficult than it was before 2.2 or 2.3
FACT - You dont not need Ascendancy points based on the two facts stated above that can be proven by simply reading the patch notes.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!
Labyrinth salt farm miner.
"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years.
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Posted byTin_Foil_Hat#0111on Jun 11, 2016, 9:39:16 PM
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I quit last league, have barely played this league. I hate trials, hate the lab...cannot stand it. Don't really know why...just hate it. Oh ya, get rid of cruel already.
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Posted bySlingshot#2204on Jun 11, 2016, 10:02:48 PM
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Nonsense about the game not being balanced around ascendancy classes.
The game WILL be balanced around them in the future, otherwise, the power granted by ascendancy classes would be overpowered by definition.
That's a silly argument. (and the only one I'll point out here. I've made my view on this quite clear in the past and don't want to repeat myself)
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Posted byZaludoz#6325on Jun 11, 2016, 10:06:33 PM
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
They arent, its be much appreciated if people like you could understand that but apparently thats out of your realm of comprehension.
Its optional, are you telling me i cant fucking play characters i play all the time on Standard League without Ascending ? Because i can. They work exactly like they did before 2.2 and 2.3. If i choose to Ascend im just getting free power from the Ascendancy points making the content i was already capable of going even easier.
How about earning them like everyone else if you want them ? That sounds good to me and it certainly seems to be GGGs full intention.
Love how you back up your argument with absolutely nothing and ignore factual evidence.
FACT - Nothing mechanically changed in 2.2 or 2.3 that would make or break a build that currently functioned before either.
FACT - Monsters havent recieved any sort of buff, the new monster types are fodder as excepted and do not make mapping any more difficult than it was before 2.2 or 2.3
FACT - You dont not need Ascendancy points based on the two facts stated above that can be proven by simply reading the patch notes.
Feeling a little hostile there mate?:)
I expressed an opinion, an alternative way of thinking...
Something that should be allowed both in the forums and in-game...
I find your tone condescending and a bit insulting tbh... You just reminded me why I refrained from posting much all these years.
I agree with you on one thing though... Comprehension is low:) :(
Bye
"Too Wierd To Live... Too Rare To Die...."
Personal Motto
Finally made it to lvl 100... Only took me 3 years...:) :(
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SpareTheRod1976 wrote:
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
They arent, its be much appreciated if people like you could understand that but apparently thats out of your realm of comprehension.
Its optional, are you telling me i cant fucking play characters i play all the time on Standard League without Ascending ? Because i can. They work exactly like they did before 2.2 and 2.3. If i choose to Ascend im just getting free power from the Ascendancy points making the content i was already capable of going even easier.
How about earning them like everyone else if you want them ? That sounds good to me and it certainly seems to be GGGs full intention.
Love how you back up your argument with absolutely nothing and ignore factual evidence.
FACT - Nothing mechanically changed in 2.2 or 2.3 that would make or break a build that currently functioned before either.
FACT - Monsters havent recieved any sort of buff, the new monster types are fodder as excepted and do not make mapping any more difficult than it was before 2.2 or 2.3
FACT - You dont not need Ascendancy points based on the two facts stated above that can be proven by simply reading the patch notes.
Feeling a little hostile there mate?:)
I expressed an opinion, an alternative way of thinking...
Something that should be allowed both in the forums and in-game...
I find your tone condescending and a bit insulting tbh... You just reminded me why I refrained from posting much all these years.
I agree with you on one thing though... Comprehension is low:) :(
Bye
TL;DR - Easily offended when given facts.
You sound like those crazed right wing digressive feminists that get triggered when you point out their logic is based on lies and mythological facts and evidence.
It isnt an alternative way of thinking when you ignore facts, thats called ignorance.
I fucking hate masters but do you see me creating a daily thread and commenting in every single thread about them how much i hate them ? Nope. I generally level them to 6 and call it a day because outside of those level 6 mods i dont need to craft anything they offer, if they do i can simply use a convenience called "master service" in which i use someone elses leveled masters for what i need.
Masters havent changed since theyve been implemented to make that process any easier. This league its arguable because you get extra experience from prophecies but you still have to do the missions. Even when its made easier i hate them enough to ignore the just the way i did before.
Guess what ? Theres a service for labyrinth too if you absolutely must have the points but hate doing the labyrinth, similar to my master craft example.
Options are there already.
Harvest sucks! But look at my decked out gear two weeks in!
Labyrinth salt farm miner.
"But my build diversity" , "Game is too hard!" - Meta drone playing the same 1-3 builds for years. Last edited by Tin_Foil_Hat#0111 on Jun 11, 2016, 10:22:08 PM
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Posted byTin_Foil_Hat#0111on Jun 11, 2016, 10:21:42 PM
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
They arent gated, as people have said many times before you people are just throwing out a term that you have no idea how to use.
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Hmm, so it's not going any better in this thread?
I'm trying to contain myself to just one lab thread.
"Dude he fucking said hotdog racist.
Like I can't even make this shit up." - gj
1.0.0 Forum Posters now have 50% less Critical Thinking skill per Patch
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Siochan wrote:
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XerxezBreak wrote:
This thread got a lot of attention, but not as many to follow through with it. Labyrinth FTW!
Real Frogger is way better than the shitty lab. Frogger FTW!
That's pretty gawdamn hardcore, they're not even using any life or quicksilver flasks.
Ok i'll show myself out.
"Dude he fucking said hotdog racist.
Like I can't even make this shit up." - gj
1.0.0 Forum Posters now have 50% less Critical Thinking skill per Patch
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Tin_Foil_Hat wrote:
Its optional, are you telling me i cant fucking play characters i play all the time on Standard League without Ascending ? Because i can. They work exactly like they did before 2.2 and 2.3. If i choose to Ascend im just getting free power from the Ascendancy points making the content i was already capable of going even easier.
How about earning them like everyone else if you want them ? That sounds good to me and it certainly seems to be GGGs full intention.
Love how you back up your argument with absolutely nothing and ignore factual evidence.
FACT - Nothing mechanically changed in 2.2 or 2.3 that would make or break a build that currently functioned before either.
FACT - Monsters havent recieved any sort of buff, the new monster types are fodder as excepted and do not make mapping any more difficult than it was before 2.2 or 2.3
FACT - You dont not need Ascendancy points based on the two facts stated above that can be proven by simply reading the patch notes.
+1000. Period. Stop complaining 'bout optional content that much.
"better to simply go balls deep full retard if you gonna go retard." -Boem-
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Posted byHunwulf#1449on Jun 11, 2016, 11:22:16 PM
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Lab makes me not want to play anymore.
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Posted byPritzlPoppers#2961on Jun 12, 2016, 2:41:50 PM
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andrew12341231 wrote:
Lab makes me not want to play anymore.
The 49% minority agrees
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Posted byDeletedon Jun 12, 2016, 2:43:24 PM
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