Who else is not going to play PoE anymore because of the lab?

I don't see why it should be a reason to quit playing (even if you don't want to do it), because it's optional.

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herflik wrote:

I didnt have nothing against the 3 base labirynths, mostly because I could make them whenever I want without being forced to rely on heavy RNG to get some entry ticket.

Still I find that lab is more of a chore (enchants + asc points) rather than content standing on its own like maps.

I think that lab should give good loot for side areas, secrets and stuff comparing how much you need to invest in it to how much you invest to run thru map.

The 4th lab got me totally off the game, mostly because of the heavy gating of content behind RNG wall for the trails (around 100 maps and 0 found). I should be able to pick what content I want to play in game rather than pray for it just like you pray for high tier maps.

Overally end-game system of PoE like someone wrote is "design flaw", nothing special in it.
White maps should be for free, craftable should be more rewarding and more cool, loot-only ones should be superb cool and even more rewarding. Player shouldnt bother in my opinion to unlock basic content of the game like monsters on your level to have reliable grind spot.

Amen. I've been saying that for years.

# 1 issue in POE. I call it the "GGG shatxperience" gating. Well if you're in HC or SC perm with your Zana 8 you're actually in a much much better position nowadays. League's stil screwed though.

Back on topic. Izaro merc + can hit a bit too hard imo. It's number game ok but please.. took them how long to do something about that fail lvl 66 devourer boss? Sigh...

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Darkfyre wrote:

I don't see why it should be a reason to quit playing (even if you don't want to do it), because it's optional.

Its really not optional anymore, when you start to balance the game around you having those points.

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mouz wrote:

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Johny_Snow wrote:

If lab is the future and the devs keep pushing it down our throats I see no reason to continue with this game. Its been nice and all but enough is enough. Cant believe that I am replacing this with Blizzard products(not D3, Hearthstone and Overwatch)but thats how it is. Who else is throwing the towel because of a faulty design decision?

HAHAHHAHAH

wait. what?

I don't get peoples hatred about the lab. Dislike, boring, weird, sucks, sure. Quit the game? O'Rly. It's still POE, same game. With an added bonus of traps.

The only rage I understand is from people with bad Internet + Computers that crash often, makes lab reallllly unpleasant. Everything else... no just no.

How many characters do people play? 10-20? All to lvl 63? I have like 500+ hours on 4 characters in Perandus.

GGG don't go around giving free Ascendancy points, keep it behind LAB forever, or maybe even something worse.

All 8 Points from Uber Atziri... that'd be fun.

And HOW could you have played POE before Ascendancy? I mean if those points are so important to you, so essential to the game, that it gets UNPLAYABLE because you have to play through 2-3 hours of content per character that you dislike, how shitty was POE before lab....

"how many chars do ppl play.." personally. i have 3x lvl 90+ i play a lot, along with a few i use to try new build, and then a few set aside to rework the build and try different stuff. my problem isn't invested time, it's the fact i hate labs and especially hate new map lab and my points gated behind it. i have multiple chars i play depending on my mood.... and now i have to respec all of my chars into a build that can do lab, specifically for that, and then let them sit till next respec before i put them back to their normal state or spend tons of regret orbs.

"all 8 points behind uber atziri" wow. i mean fucking wow. the most build specific oriented fight in the game. then add in the cost and timesink to do that fight. if they are going to make character development gated behind raid difficulty content, i'll go play a game i can be in a raid when i do it, be the tank or lead, and get what i'm there for. personally, and i'll guess 99% of ppl out there, play this game because it's a rng mouse clicker kill game. try to tier it like WoW or Rift for "endgame"..... going to loose a lot of ppl. what your left with is the diehard fans. shit, ppl are still playing everquest. no idea if it's making $$... but it's still alive because of diehard fans who all these years have said "fuck the new guy make this shit hard cuz me and my friends can do it and we dont want them to have it"

I understand the two latest point as "directed towards the dedicated part" of the community, players willing to hunt them.

But of course, as new, powerful content is being implemented, a lot of players feels entitled to it.

Just saw mathil doing trials and nearly ripping 2 times to roombas... nothing special for sc he didnt even break a sweat as a hc player i thought wtf is he doing then i realized why bother he has nothing to lose

Before was before and now is now. Before, without labyrinth, PoE was the coolest ARPG on the market. Now with its inclusion it doesn't matter how good the other parts are, the lab sticks out like a sore thumb and its something you have to deal with in every new league. Yea no, thanks for the experience but I am not doing it ever again. Simply playing the game without getting my ascendancy class is even worse.

Yep, not playing either cuz of lab. Lab was criticized so much, especially the enchants (rewards) being soooo RNG... and they went ahead and made an even worse version of the lab instead of fixing... only GGG can be this dumb.

I was ok with the 3 basic labs. It was bit of grind to get the equipment thru RNG, but it was different style of play comparing to other content (bit of change is welcome too).

After they implemented 4th lab i totally lost will to play the game. Its RNG wall behind a RNG wall. The requierement to find trails at random in some maps and then find even more to get entry items is just radiculousl.

So you gotta have luck to find 6 trials, then have luck to find load of entries to roll all your equipment enchants (each time doing boring and annoying trial) and then go thru lab as addition to that.

If I could enter at will it would be totally different situation, just as with first 3 labs. Whenever I want I can try my luck with RNG fest, whenever I want i switch to other content of game. Now its forced to do maps in order to do lab with low ratio of trial appearing.