General Discussion - how many fusing for 5 links? - Forum

" Shagsbeard wrote: It really is about time that GGG give up on their "it's fun not to know" attitude on stuff like this and just give us the damn number. The mean alone says nothing. For useful info we'd need the mean and variance to calculate confidence intervals. " torturo wrote: We have the number :) 5l - 150 on average They set recipe on the average chance to link. I highly doubt this. Pretty sure 150 = average + premium. Last edited by Sa_Re#3411 on Nov 12, 2014, 8:29:34 AM	Posted by Sa_Re#3411 on Nov 12, 2014, 8:26:52 AM Quote this Post
" torturo wrote: " Shagsbeard wrote: It really is about time that GGG give up on their "it's fun not to know" attitude on stuff like this and just give us the damn number. We have the number :) 5l - 150 on average They set recipe on the average chance to link. No, they they set the price = average + bonus for a guaranteed result, else gambling would loose sense. 5L in no more than 100 fus on average. Less if you use scraps. When night falls She cloaks the world In impenetrable darkness	Posted by morbo#1824 on Nov 12, 2014, 8:42:37 AM Quote this Post
By "the number" I meant the probabilities of getting 5L, 6L, etc on the use of a fusing. We can figure out stuff like the average and expectations of certain lengths of streaks ourselves.	Posted by Shagsbeard#3964 on Nov 12, 2014, 8:50:59 AM Quote this Post
" morbo wrote: 5L in no more than 100 fus on average. Less if you use scraps. 50% fee above the average chance (according to you), for the guaranteed result? Even IF 150 is the average chance, the guaranteed result itself is not the best deal. As you are still able to craft it on lower end and it's not a precedent. Why there should be a fee? I personally believe GGG set it on average with no fees. For the pointless statistics : my personal experience isv around 10-400 for 5l. This is a buff © 2016 The Experts ™ 2017 Last edited by torturo#7228 on Nov 12, 2014, 9:19:11 AM	Posted by torturo#7228 on Nov 12, 2014, 9:15:57 AM Quote this Post
how does using scraps effect stuff? I dont get that at all. how can u say that isnt completley psychological. I mean everyone knows blowing on dice helps in craps. Can nobody link to anything? No offence but reading something semi official is far preferable to 'he said she said'. The 150 price for recipe will indeed include a premium as it would wreck crafting Last edited by MrTortoise3#2382 on Nov 12, 2014, 12:01:01 PM	Posted by MrTortoise3#2382 on Nov 12, 2014, 11:59:41 AM Quote this Post
" MrTortoise3 wrote: how does using scraps effect stuff? I dont get that at all. how can u say that isnt completley psychological. I mean everyone knows blowing on dice helps in craps. Can nobody link to anything? No offence but reading something semi official is far preferable to 'he said she said'. The 150 price for recipe will indeed include a premium as it would wreck crafting If you have quality on your weapon / armor it increases the chance for 5/6 link, but your quality is lost. It was a change made by ggg months ago because a lot of people complained, that it was to hard to 5/6 link stuff. Its not religion/made up/superstition. Its true and official. Will look for a link. IGN Corelica Last edited by Chesto#0622 on Nov 12, 2014, 12:05:50 PM	Posted by Chesto#0622 on Nov 12, 2014, 12:04:48 PM Quote this Post
" The Orb of Fusing and Jeweller's Orb now consume all the quality on an item to increase the chances of rolling more sockets/links. From patch notes Version 0.11.0 http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Version_0.11.0	Posted by Sa_Re#3411 on Nov 12, 2014, 12:07:02 PM Quote this Post
" torturo wrote: " morbo wrote: 5L in no more than 100 fus on average. Less if you use scraps. 50% fee above the average chance (according to you), for the guaranteed result? Even IF 150 is the average chance, the guaranteed result itself is not the best deal. As you are still able to craft it on lower end and it's not a precedent. Why there should be a fee? I personally believe GGG set it on average with no fees. For the pointless statistics : my personal experience isv around 10-400 for 5l. GGG explicitly stated there is a premium added on, we just don't know what how large that premium is The original Hillockfarms RIP IHavSixLinkSearingTouch (73 dual incinerate templar) 8/11/2013 RIP TwoShavronnesOneFlask 9/11/2014 6L count: 10 GGG is tracking your processes, better stop downloading that My Little Pony porn :^)	Posted by Goatsebusters#2033 on Nov 12, 2014, 2:02:45 PM Quote this Post
" Goatsebusters wrote: GGG explicitly stated there is a premium added on, we just don't know what how large that premium is Oh, ok then. Spoiler bastards... This is a buff © 2016 The Experts ™ 2017	Posted by torturo#7228 on Nov 12, 2014, 3:34:40 PM Quote this Post
" Sa_Re wrote: " The Orb of Fusing and Jeweller's Orb now consume all the quality on an item to increase the chances of rolling more sockets/links. From patch notes Version 0.11.0 http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Version_0.11.0 Great, thanks :D thats quite an interesting sink	Posted by MrTortoise3#2382 on Nov 13, 2014, 4:43:47 AM Quote this Post