Flame Totem Support Gems

That's what I'm going to do. I still have around 12 orbs of regret plus 7-8 refunds and will have more for Cruel and Merciless, so I will upgrade my tree.

Thanks :)

I used both Controlled Destruction & Elemental focus and I get up to 75k dps per totem with 3 frenzy + atziri promise + vaal haste.

I run as Inquisitor and it works VERY well combined with my 24k dps SB which add 24k to any mobs in melee range of my FT and myself

Well as I said - I play Hierophant, 3 totems + selfcast intended.

I have one more question - if I will use Cold to Fire gem on, for example, Freezing Pulse with Elemental Equilibrium will it make mob resistant to cold damage and -50% for fire and lightning or will it make it more resistant for both cold and fire?

Because I have unique staff that adds cold to fire and I wanted to run equilibrium with selfcasting cold spells and fire totems at the same time to keep resistances down all the time.

You should be using in order of importance :

Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - Fire Penetration - Empower 3/4 or Added Chaos Damage or Faster Projectiles.

You can look at this guide if you need ideas :

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Rusherboy wrote:

You should be using in order of importance :

Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - Fire Penetration - Empower 3/4 or Added Chaos Damage or Faster Projectiles.

You can look at this guide if you need ideas :

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1405905

This is wrong. Correct order:

Fire Penetration - Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - the rest

Reasoning:

Penetration is the single most important gem, if you are using one element only. Assuming you are not using other resistance decreasing stuff, it is at worse 37% more damage (monsters having 0% resist), and at best 92% more damage (on monster with capped resistances - 75%). It makes no sense to pump your DPS up, if 75% of that goes into the dumpster, amarito?

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dan14nr wrote:

Well as I said - I play Hierophant, 3 totems + selfcast intended.

I have one more question - if I will use Cold to Fire gem on, for example, Freezing Pulse with Elemental Equilibrium will it make mob resistant to cold damage and -50% for fire and lightning or will it make it more resistant for both cold and fire?

Because I have unique staff that adds cold to fire and I wanted to run equilibrium with selfcasting cold spells and fire totems at the same time to keep resistances down all the time.

The latter. EE takes all the damage you deal into consideration - it doesn't matter what it was pre-conversion. It would just be too easy to abuse EE - take any pure elemental spell and convert 100% of its damage to the other element(s). Free -50% resistances? :P Nope.

Okay, so if I won't convert cold into fire and selfcast cold spells with flame totems casting as well will I benefit from EE? In theory my cold spells should make mob less resistant to fire, then flame totem should make it less resistant to cold etc.

It is my first build that I do myself so that's why I have so many questions :)

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Perq wrote:

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Rusherboy wrote:

You should be using in order of importance :

Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - Fire Penetration - Empower 3/4 or Added Chaos Damage or Faster Projectiles.

You can look at this guide if you need ideas :

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1405905

This is wrong. Correct order:

Fire Penetration - Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - the rest

Reasoning:

Penetration is the single most important gem, if you are using one element only. Assuming you are not using other resistance decreasing stuff, it is at worse 37% more damage (monsters having 0% resist), and at best 92% more damage (on monster with capped resistances - 75%). It makes no sense to pump your DPS up, if 75% of that goes into the dumpster, amarito?

You are right about what Fire Pen does, but it only matters in 5% of your encounters wich is versus uniques and fire res rares.

So I stand by my post.

Best ofcourse would be to 100% convert to chaos to free a gem slot.

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dan14nr wrote:

Okay, so if I won't convert cold into fire and selfcast cold spells with flame totems casting as well will I benefit from EE? In theory my cold spells should make mob less resistant to fire, then flame totem should make it less resistant to cold etc.

It is my first build that I do myself so that's why I have so many questions :)

Yup, that would work quite well. Flame Totems cast quite often, so you'd get the effect to every cold hit. Totems also trigger EE, so after you cast your cold spell, the next hit from totem will get benefit of lowered resistances. :P Getting some cold spell that hits in a fast pace would seems a good idea (I remember something saying that Lightning Tendrils suck... heh :D)

The only problem that you might have, is situation where your totem is constantly killed, and you can't get it up. In other words, you get great DPS when combined with Totem, but each of you won't do much on their own. :P You need to consider that, too. :)

So just as I thought, thanks. I will still give it a try, have some ideas :)
When I'll finish my build (lvl 53 on Cruel currently) I will surely post it in Templar section :)
For now most important is to complete The Labirynth again in order to get totem benefits from Hierophant tree and refund Ancestral Bond.

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Rusherboy wrote:

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Perq wrote:

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Rusherboy wrote:

You should be using in order of importance :

Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - Fire Penetration - Empower 3/4 or Added Chaos Damage or Faster Projectiles.

You can look at this guide if you need ideas :

Spoiler

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1405905

This is wrong. Correct order:

Fire Penetration - Elemental Focus - Controlled Destruction - Faster Casting - the rest

Reasoning:

Penetration is the single most important gem, if you are using one element only. Assuming you are not using other resistance decreasing stuff, it is at worse 37% more damage (monsters having 0% resist), and at best 92% more damage (on monster with capped resistances - 75%). It makes no sense to pump your DPS up, if 75% of that goes into the dumpster, amarito?

You are right about what Fire Pen does, but it only matters in 5% of your encounters wich is versus uniques and fire res rares.

So I stand by my post.

Best ofcourse would be to 100% convert to chaos to free a gem slot.

Errr, no. It matters always. If you have no other means of decreasing monsters resistances, it ALWAYS gives you at least 37% MORE damage (penetration can make resistances go below 0%, meaning -37% resists = 37% more damage). And the more resistances they have, the more benefits you gain. Also, far more monsters have resistances - not only bosses and rares. ;)

Converting to Chaos disables your ability to reduce monsters resistances below 0, so it isn't "best". Also, some monsters have Chaos Resistance, you'll never get rid of, because there are no means of doing so.