Perandus league has split this game apart

I don't doubt that if you are a committed trader, you are already stacked with GG T1 items to the brim. And probably bored. But everyone who is not playing it as a trade-core experience (trades little or not), is still not finding Shavs around every corner.

In ~100 hrs of gameplay, Cadiro has offered me zero T1 uniques (unless Scolds is T1, prob. not, considering it cost only ~2.4k coins). All I got was nice levelling items (Tabula, Goldrim, Lifespring, Meginords, Wanderlust...) and some commonly used T2s-T3s (Rat's, BoR, Alpha's, Maligaros, Abyssus..).

But global trading makes everything look "overpowered", esp. now with trading tabs, the wealth re-distribution is even more efficient. Personally I'd make Cadiro coins un-tradeable and that would fix "the problem" (which I don't think actually exists, but just to appease the traders who scream 'nothing is valuable anymore'!!!)

And the main gear items are still good rares, which Cadiro doesn't sell (some jewellery here and there, nothing broken)

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Aim_Deep wrote:

actually flipping got a lot easier as things instantly appear and notify user instantly based on set criteria. bots will be made if they are not already to scan for hot deals second they are listed in tab...like D3 bots were. Only difference is a person will have to manually trade. Harder for joe six pack though because all the "deals" will be gone seconds after appearing.

http://diablo3story.blogspot.com/2014/07/a-diablo-3-story.html

But that assumes that people playing the game would respond to these bots no?

I'm seeing more people (myself included) being more involved with the market, and if I get a few automated messages about an item I priced low, I ignore them.

So much exaggeration. You say it's like finding 2 Zod runes in D2, but I will go out on a limb here and guess that no one has found 2 Mirrors in this league. You are comparing every unique that is build enabling to a Zod rune, which just kills any legitimate argument.

The "purists" who are upset are the trade flippers and people running RMT sites. The majority of us are running wild and having fun, because for once, we can see multiple badass builds come to fruition. The ability to try out new builds is actually keeping out in front of the burnout. The rare shit is still rare, and casual players aren't piling pages of Voll's Devotions. Getting enough loot to try out builds with build enabling uniques can actually be done by grinding this season, instead of being a trade merchant or bust.

Trading and reward for grinding have gotten so much better this league imo. I'm enjoying every second of this league, because next league we will probably go back to the top .000001% controlling the trade market, while of the rest of the community gets to go back to Chinese gold farming currency for them. I just want to play the game, grind my ass off with some 14 hour marathon days, and get stronger in-game for doing it.

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elitedesolator wrote:

I'm seeing more people (myself included) being more involved with the market, and if I get a few automated messages about an item I priced low, I ignore them.

this puts yourself into the risk of getting removed from poe.trade by the maintainer of this site (not ggg) and so from basically every trade in this game because it can be seen as you trying to manipulate the market with lowballing item prices and not selling.

if you ask people in the forums here, he does the right thing by doing so. and he has every right doing so because poe.trade is his property. *slow clap*

Who cares about unique, they are build-enabling items, they shouldn't be ever BiS or soem crap like that (that's the real problem), and hence should be relatively available. 2 ex for a good unique is perfectly fine price I spent 3ex worth of currency trying to "craft" a decent rare (failed! and had to buy in poe.trade) yesterday. That's where the game is at and should be.

Also Cadiro is just like a normal drop, he may give you crap or bad deals (95% of the time is like this), and you may not have enough coins to buy that GG item anyway. People is making a big deal about something that is basically an other RNG item roll and can be balanced anyway. In fact it has already been nerfed in the last days probably and now spawns less often or the GG items are more rare (some uniques are going up in price again).

Not such a big deal as people makes it to be, most no-lifers are ok with having Cadiro anyway.

Well there are definitely bots scanning the market for good deals. Occasionally I undervalue an item, but you will know instantly, because you get flooded with offers for it. Usually I just say "sorry sold" and up the price a bit :p

All it will do is kill the high-end flipping market on most of the uniques, and bring market for well-rolled rares (gear or jewels) into forefront. Those will still be rare and valuable, no matter how many more people enter the market on the supply side.

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vio wrote:

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elitedesolator wrote:

I'm seeing more people (myself included) being more involved with the market, and if I get a few automated messages about an item I priced low, I ignore them.

this puts yourself into the risk of getting removed from poe.trade by the maintainer of this site (not ggg) and so from basically every trade in this game because it can be seen as you trying to manipulate the market with lowballing item prices and not selling.

if you ask people in the forums here, he does the right thing by doing so. and he has every right doing so because poe.trade is his property. *slow clap*

lol

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vio wrote:

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elitedesolator wrote:

I'm seeing more people (myself included) being more involved with the market, and if I get a few automated messages about an item I priced low, I ignore them.

this puts yourself into the risk of getting removed from poe.trade by the maintainer of this site (not ggg) and so from basically every trade in this game because it can be seen as you trying to manipulate the market with lowballing item prices and not selling.

if you ask people in the forums here, he does the right thing by doing so. and he has every right doing so because poe.trade is his property. *slow clap*

I'm actually starting to think that you are one of the scammers that got blacklisted on poe.trade, there is no other explanation for you to be this salty.

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vio wrote:

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elitedesolator wrote:

I'm seeing more people (myself included) being more involved with the market, and if I get a few automated messages about an item I priced low, I ignore them.

this puts yourself into the risk of getting removed from poe.trade by the maintainer of this site (not ggg) and so from basically every trade in this game because it can be seen as you trying to manipulate the market with lowballing item prices and not selling.

if you ask people in the forums here, he does the right thing by doing so. and he has every right doing so because poe.trade is his property. *slow clap*

What are you talking about man? I'm not deliberately lowering the ask price. Putting a lower price because I didn't do my research or because of a mistake like putting 1c bo on a 1ex item won't get you banned from poe.trade lol.